Who Funds Climate Change Deniers

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Who Funds Climate Change Deniers

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"Dark money funds"

Fossil fuel funded climate skeptic organizations, including the same ones used by the tobacco industry to deny the dangers of smoking. They even use the same playbook!
Doubt is our product as it is the best means of competing with the "body of fact" that exists in the mind of the general public.


Koch brothers

Exxon Mobile

Secretly funded denial think tanks

http://phys.org/news/2013-12-koch-brothers-reveals-funders-climate.html

European extremist free marketeers

See also.

The overwhelming majority of their funding comes from corporations that have a vested interest in convincing us to buy and use fossil fuels as profligately as we can, including some of the wealthiest and most powerful corporations in history, who have spent literally billions of dollars to obfuscate the scientific facts about climate change and buy politicians whom can be persuaded to fight for preservation of the status quo and their bottom line profits.
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Re: Who Funds Climate Change Deniers

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This is why it's obvious the climate deniers haven't really given this much thought, or are actively bullshitting themselves.

What's more likely, that big oil has been doing the big tobacco misinformation campaign so they keep their massive profits going, or independent scientists from all over the world are all telling the same lie to get more funding for research?

I mean, just how damned stupid do you have to be? faqin' stupid, at least.
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Re: Who Funds Climate Change Deniers

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Boring.... you people are such brainwashed gullible fools.

Your little articles didn't also tell you for example that Exxon etc. ALSO gave millions to liberal lawmakers for various things and reasons, nothing to do with climate change.

Further, tell me dingbats...... Which is worse, science being under the control of Political Ideology recieving funding for such and to research such, or entirely independent INDIVIDUALS and COMPANY's contributing money to help the scientists who want to get the word out as SKEPTICS???

You people are utterly ignorant and bigots.
Only true science deniers would need to call people "deniers" when they are simply SKEPTICS.
What you morons also don't get is that all the skeptics out there, they are independent people and scientists, who are "going against the stream" with their views, and yes, it takes money to do that, especially when you're threatened and even lose your career for it if you speak up, just like the Top Weatherman in France spoke up, and he was fired for it.

See, you people don't know anything..... What you atribute to our side, is actually in fact what is occuring on YOUR side.
What the video I last posted on this..... the expert goes into a lot of information some related to this subject, of how he's interviewed some retired scientists, and some of them have admitted that under the current political climate and fascism, that if they don't believe in man made global warming, they wouldn't open their mouths on it because they could lose their careers.
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Re: Who Funds Climate Change Deniers

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ldsfaqs wrote:I'm an incurable damned idiot.

It's gotten to the point that when you post, faqs, this is all I see.

FYI
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ldsfaqs wrote:Further, tell me dingbats...... Which is worse, science being under the control of Political Ideology recieving funding for such and to research such, or entirely independent INDIVIDUALS and COMPANY's contributing money to help the scientists who want to get the word out as SKEPTICS???


Guardian wrote:ExxonMobil, the world’s biggest oil company, knew as early as 1981 of climate change – seven years before it became a public issue, according to a newly discovered email from one of the firm’s own scientists. Despite this the firm spent millions over the next 27 years to promote climate denial.

The email from Exxon’s in-house climate expert provides evidence the company was aware of the connection between fossil fuels and climate change, and the potential for carbon-cutting regulations that could hurt its bottom line, over a generation ago – factoring that knowledge into its decision about an enormous gas field in south-east Asia. The field, off the coast of Indonesia, would have been the single largest source of global warming pollution at the time.


This is the work of an 'entirely independent COMPANY'. Always trust the oil companies to give you honest objective information about Global Warming, just as you could always trust tobacco companies to give you honest, objective research about lung cancer.
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Re: Who Funds Climate Change Deniers

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Scientists are the most skeptical people on earth. They have to produce objective evidence for every claim.

List of scientific organizations that accept Global Warming.
SEE https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientifi ... ate_change

IMPORTANTLY:
SEE American Association of Petroleum Geologists

As of June 2007, the American Association of Petroleum Geologists (AAPG) Position Statement on climate change stated:

the AAPG membership is divided on the degree of influence that anthropogenic CO2 has on recent and potential global temperature increases ... Certain climate simulation models predict that the warming trend will continue, as reported through NAS, AGU, AAAS and AMS. AAPG respects these scientific opinions but wants to add that the current climate warming projections could fall within well-documented natural variations in past climate and observed temperature data. These data do not necessarily support the maximum case scenarios forecast in some models.[103]

Prior to the adoption of this statement, the AAPG was the only major scientific organization that rejected the finding of significant human influence on recent climate, according to a statement by the Council of the American Quaternary Association.[13] Explaining the plan for a revision, AAPG president Lee Billingsly wrote in March 2007:

Members have threatened to not renew their memberships… if AAPG does not alter its position on global climate change... And I have been told of members who already have resigned in previous years because of our current global climate change position… The current policy statement is not supported by a significant number of our members and prospective members.[104]

AAPG President John Lorenz announced the "sunsetting" of AAPG’s Global Climate Change Committee in January 2010. The AAPG Executive Committee determined:

Climate change is peripheral at best to our science [. . .] AAPG does not have credibility in that field [. . .] and as a group we have no particular knowledge of global atmospheric geophysics.[105]
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Yet, when you job depends on Government funds to prove "Global Warming"..... there's a strong danger there.

Further, it's been proven they've manipulated the data in various ways and times.
So, it's not a conspiracy theory, it's actual scientific FACT.
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Re: Who Funds Climate Change Deniers

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ldsfaqs wrote:Boring.... you people are such brainwashed gullible fools.

Your little articles didn't also tell you for example that Exxon etc. ALSO gave millions to liberal lawmakers for various things and reasons, nothing to do with climate change.

Further, tell me dingbats...... Which is worse, science being under the control of Political Ideology recieving funding for such and to research such, or entirely independent INDIVIDUALS and COMPANY's contributing money to help the scientists who want to get the word out as SKEPTICS???

You people are utterly ignorant and bigots.
Only true science deniers would need to call people "deniers" when they are simply SKEPTICS.
What you morons also don't get is that all the skeptics out there, they are independent people and scientists, who are "going against the stream" with their views, and yes, it takes money to do that, especially when you're threatened and even lose your career for it if you speak up, just like the Top Weatherman in France spoke up, and he was fired for it.

See, you people don't know anything..... What you atribute to our side, is actually in fact what is occuring on YOUR side.
What the video I last posted on this..... the expert goes into a lot of information some related to this subject, of how he's interviewed some retired scientists, and some of them have admitted that under the current political climate and fascism, that if they don't believe in man made global warming, they wouldn't open their mouths on it because they could lose their careers.


Wonder what that post might have looked like were it not riddled with devaluation?
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ldsfaqs wrote:Boring.... you people are such brainwashed gullible fools.

Your little articles didn't also tell you for example that Exxon etc. ALSO gave millions to liberal lawmakers for various things and reasons, nothing to do with climate change.

Further, tell me dingbats...... Which is worse, science being under the control of Political Ideology recieving funding for such and to research such, or entirely independent INDIVIDUALS and COMPANY's contributing money to help the scientists who want to get the word out as SKEPTICS???

You people are utterly ignorant and bigots.
Only true science deniers would need to call people "deniers" when they are simply SKEPTICS.
What you morons also don't get is that all the skeptics out there, they are independent people and scientists, who are "going against the stream" with their views, and yes, it takes money to do that, especially when you're threatened and even lose your career for it if you speak up, just like the Top Weatherman in France spoke up, and he was fired for it.

See, you people don't know anything..... What you atribute to our side, is actually in fact what is occuring on YOUR side.
What the video I last posted on this..... the expert goes into a lot of information some related to this subject, of how he's interviewed some retired scientists, and some of them have admitted that under the current political climate and fascism, that if they don't believe in man made global warming, they wouldn't open their mouths on it because they could lose their careers.


"recieving" is spelled receiving
"atribute" is spelled attribute
"occuring" is spelled occurring
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Re: Who Funds Climate Change Deniers

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ldsfaqs wrote:Yet, when you job depends on Government funds to prove "Global Warming"..... there's a strong danger there.

Further, it's been proven they've manipulated the data in various ways and times.
So, it's not a conspiracy theory, it's actual scientific FACT.


That is a lie.
SEE http://insideclimatenews.org/news/15092 ... al-warming
SEE http://news.sciencemag.org/2010/07/east ... estigation
SEE http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warming/so ... mRcmOIrvIU

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