Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Liberals Unaware

[_ldsfaqs]

http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2013/05/ ... c-unaware/

by the way.... I would also like to point out two things:

1. the "Austrailia Gun Ban" in 1996 did not in fact stop mass shootings and killings. There have been several since.

2. While it's true gun crime has "went down" since the ban, the problem is, like with the above charts, it's only gone down at the EXACT rate and amount that gun crime was decreasing years and years before the ban on guns. In otherwords, there is ZERO correlation that the gun ban actually reduced gun crime.

There's websites out there you can find that information, I've posted it before, but you all ignore facts as usual that don't fit your views, so there's no need for me to back up everything I say every time I say it like you morons sometimes want me to do, recent being Lemmie.

[_just me]

This is the same type of argument used by anti-vaxers against vaccinations.

[_MissTish]

Interesting bit in faqs' linked article:

According to one hypothesis, legalization of abortion after the 1973 Supreme Court Roe v. Wade decision resulted in fewer unwanted births, and unwanted children have an increased risk of growing up to become criminals

Two interesting pieces I've read recently:

The States With The Most Gun Laws See The Fewest Gun-Related Deaths
http://www.nationaljournal.com/s/53345/ ... ted-deaths

States with the most gun violence
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati ... /71003050/

[_ldsfaqs]

Interesting bit in faqs' linked article:

According to one hypothesis, legalization of abortion after the 1973 Supreme Court Roe v. Wade decision resulted in fewer unwanted births, and unwanted children have an increased risk of growing up to become criminals

Two interesting pieces I've read recently:

The States With The Most Gun Laws See The Fewest Gun-Related Deaths
http://www.nationaljournal.com/s/53345/ ... ted-deaths

States with the most gun violence
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati ... /71003050/

Misrepresentative liberal junk.....
If you calculate the "city's" in question, specifically which end up being mostly liberal, you see where the gun crime is occuring.
It's not all the gun owners who own lot's of guns in a state where the gun crime is occuring, it's liberal city's.

Further in relation to that, they are listing "all" gun related death, they aren't listing "gun crime". It includes Law Enforcement usage, accidents, etc. etc.
Thus, of course any moron knows that if you have "more" of something, there will tend to be more of it.
More people own cars, more car related deaths are going to occur.

Classic liberal misrepresentation magic trick.

[_Lemmie]

Thus, of course any moron knows that if you have "more" of something, there will tend to be more of it.

Classic ldsfuqqers misrepresentation trick. Or maybe just lack of education.

[_The CCC]

Interesting bit in faqs' linked article:


More people own cars, more car related deaths are going to occur.

Classic liberal misrepresentation magic trick.

You're an idiot. Automobile deaths are down in the US.
SEE https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_m ... er_VMT.png

[_ldsfaqs]

So.... Gun related homicide rates are down also.

Of course there's sometimes tipping points in which the culture is more experienced and educated, and safe in which "more" of something will reduce certain things.

I couldn't find the stat offhand because everyones listing "car deaths", but I bet you car "accidents" keep going up and up the more cars there are.
So yes, car "death" has been reduced due to technology, and?

[_maklelan]

http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2013/05/07/gun-homicide-rate-down-49-since-1993-peak-public-unaware/

The reduction in gun-related homicides correlates with the reduction in the households that own guns:

http://www.norc.org/PDFs/GSS%20Reports/ ... 2-2014.pdf

The increase in the raw number of guns owned in the US is the product of fewer individuals owning multiple guns. It's not more guns that are reducing gun-related homicides, it's fewer people owning guns, although the gun-related suicide rate has remained steady, and has actually ticked up in the last few years. The study below shows that for each 1% increase in the number of households owning guns, there is a roughly equivalent increase in gun-related homicides:

http://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/ab ... lCode=ajph

by the way.... I would also like to point out two things:

1. the "Austrailia Gun Ban" in 1996 did not in fact stop mass shootings and killings. There have been several since.

That depends on the rubric you use for counting them. Which do you use?

2. While it's true gun crime has "went down" since the ban, the problem is, like with the above charts, it's only gone down at the EXACT rate and amount that gun crime was decreasing years and years before the ban on guns. In otherwords, there is ZERO correlation that the gun ban actually reduced gun crime.

This is just flatly untrue.

There's websites out there you can find that information, I've posted it before, but you all ignore facts as usual that don't fit your views, so there's no need for me to back up everything I say every time I say it like you morons sometimes want me to do, recent being Lemmie.

No, there's a difference between ignoring facts and discerning facts from manipulative rhetoric.

[_The CCC]

So.... Gun related homicide rates are down also.

Of course there's sometimes tipping points in which the culture is more experienced and educated, and safe in which "more" of something will reduce certain things.

I couldn't find the stat offhand because everyones listing "car deaths", but I bet you car "accidents" keep going up and up the more cars there are.
So yes, car "death" has been reduced due to technology, and?

Never said gun deaths weren't down. While the absolute numbers of guns are up, the number of people owning them is down. Therefore more guns in fewer hands. The stats bear this out that more guns in fewer hands increases the likelihood that some idiot is going to misuse them. by the way I've never argued for the banning of firearms. I'm much more interested in keeping them out of the hands of those people incapable or unwilling to use them properly.

I gave you the link and the information. More cars in the US has not resulted in more deaths.
Just the opposite. I don't blame cars or guns for the deaths, just those people incapable or unwilling to use them properly. That being said cars unlike guns have far more purposes than just to kill things.