George Zimmerman is Awful

[Guest]

Bottom line, is you all's argument is one of the common Fallacy's people make.

Your argument is equivlent to someone chooses to drive his car that day, he sees a cool car and want's to get a closer look and takes a side road, the cool car see's him and doesn't like to be looked at, so the cool car decides to go and confront the guy wanting to check things out, and crashes into him, and then you go and blame the guy just driving his car and wanting to check another cool car out as being the actual problem.

No.... morons.... The cool car who chose to crash his car into the other guy just wanting to check him out is the one who's at fault.

And again, whether Zimmerman was right or not in his judgment in judging Trayvon as "suspicious", it doesn't change the fact that it's Trayvon who chose to cross the line and for Zimmerman to shoot protecting himself. Period, end of story.

Neighborhood watch people are always checking people out, even if they are perfectly innocent.
The "checking" is not the crime, but in the liberal mind it is.
People "existing" is the actual crime in the liberal mind, not the actual criminal behavior, i.e. the assualt upon Zimmerman.

[_ldsfaqs]

A good guy with a gun can stop a bad guy with a bag of Skittles?

Wow you are stupid... No, a good guy with a gun can stop a bad guy from assaulting him.
Utterly amazing how the liberal mind outright LIES and "transfers" facts that are irrelevant.

If you were being accurate..... The guy with the Skittles was being WATCHED for the Skittles or otherwise.
Again, he was shot for assaulting someone.

[_The CCC]

We know Travon was just walking home from the store. He did not act suspiciously and Zimmerman had no reason to follow and make Travon feel his life was threatened. If it wasn't for Zimmerman's impulse problems there never would have been an altercation.

1. Actually we do know Travon was acting suspicious according to Zimmerman and police audio etc.

2. Zimmerman was watching Trayvon from a distance. Trayvon CHOSE for his lack of impulse controls to attack Zimmerman.

See..... What you don't get, is Neighborhood watch people, police, and just the average citizen, if they see something, they WATCH people all the time.
Yet, in your warped liberal mind, all those people watched should feel "threatened" and then they should attack the watchers.

Forget what you "believe" about Zimmerman and his own personal issues.
People DO what Zimmerman did all the time, and it's perfectly harmless. There is no "threat" watching people from a distance.

You can complain that nothing would have happened had Zimmerman not been watching the guy, but such is not illegal nor immoral.
It's something people do all the time.
It also happens all the time that in fact the person being watched IS in fact a criminal or planning a criminal act.

So, no matter what, Trayvon is who caused this, by choosing to cross a line.

Keep falsely blaiming Zimmerman, but the above facts debunk your ignorance.

You're an idiot the police told Zimmerman to back off.
http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/ ... man_i.html

[_Brackite]

Zimmerman as a neighborhood watch volunteer, was not really supposed to be carrying a gun, and he definitely should not have been following Martin while carrying a gun.

"Carrying a gun and acting with police powers is specifically NOT in the description for acting as a neighborhood watch volunteer, and for a reason." - Honorentheos

"His [Zimmerman's] actions on the night of the shooting generated controversy as he exited his vehicle and was carrying a gun, both of which go against neighborhood watch recommendations." - Wikipedia

As for who really initiated the fight between Zimmerman and Martin, we still don't really know who did out of them. And we may really never know who did out of the two of them.

[_Lemmie]

1. Actually we do know Travon was acting suspicious according to Zimmerman

No, what we know is that Zimmerman said Travon was acting suspicious.

It also happens all the time that in fact the person being watched IS in fact a criminal or planning a criminal act.

Your statistical evidence is meaningless. Didn't you have to take stats in college? Or even high school? It also happens all the time that the person being watched IS NOT in fact a criminal or planning a criminal act.

But keep it up, el-de-ess! As CeeBoo noted, even makle has stepped outside his typical posting style to request that you stop making his people look so bigoted.

[_Themis]

We know Travon was just walking home from the store. He did not act suspiciously and Zimmerman had no reason to follow and make Travon feel his life was threatened. If it wasn't for Zimmerman's impulse problems there never would have been an altercation.

1. Actually we do know Travon was acting suspicious according to Zimmerman and police audio etc.

I'm aware Zimmerman thought so, but no evidence he gives support that he was acting suspicious other then being a black teenager walking through the area.

2. Zimmerman was watching Trayvon from a distance. Trayvon CHOSE for his lack of impulse controls to attack Zimmerman.

Why would Travon attack him? He was walking home away from Zimmerman. Could he have thought Zimmerman was the one acting suspicious? We don't really know who may have attacked first, but we do know the Travon was probably winning. I guess if the loser can get a gun or knife out and kill them then it must be self defense. There is a reason he was charged, and in most places he would have been convicted for good reason.

[_ldsfaqs]

You're an idiot the police told Zimmerman to back off.
http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/ ... man_i.html

Actually you're the idiot.... A dispatcher said to back off, but guess what, dispatchers say that all the time to people who are encountering suspicious people or people commiting a crime, etc.

Zimmerman was simply trying to keep an eye on the guy so he could direct the police.
Zimmerman did ZERO actually wrong. In another situation, people often end up being hero's for helping to catch a bad guy.

See, all of your response avoid what I actually said, instead you keep trying to find excuses instead of dealing with the simple facts.
Again, Zimmerman being right or wrong that Trayvon was suspicious, the fact is, people do that all the time.
There is no "crime" in keeping an eye on people. The crime occured when Trayvon assaulted him. Period.

Don't know why you people still ignore the facts. It's so facinating the liberal warped brain.

[_Quasimodo]

Actually you're the idiot.... A dispatcher said to back off, but guess what, dispatchers say that all the time to people who are encountering suspiciou

If Zemmerman had just done what he was told by the dispatcher and stayed in his car until the real police arrived, Treyvon (an innocent kid) would still be alive and Zimmerman would have saved himself a lenthy court trial. Instead he decided to have a John Wayne moment and killed this poor kid.

[_ldsfaqs]

Actually you're the idiot.... A dispatcher said to back off, but guess what, dispatchers say that all the time to people who are encountering suspiciou

If Zemmerman had just done what he was told by the dispatcher and stayed in his car until the real police arrived, Treyvon (an innocent kid) would still be alive and Zimmerman would have saved himself a lenthy court trial. Instead he decided to have a John Wayne moment and killed this poor kid.

And if your neighbor just hadn't driven his car, then another car who drove strait at him wouldn't have hit him, and that driver wouldn't have died.

Again, your statement is a Fallacy..... because in another instance Zimmerman (or another good citizen doing the exact same thing as Zimmerman) might have saved a life.

And stop calling Trayvon "innocent"....
1. He wasn't an innocent kid in any way in character, but a punk and bought the ingredients for a poor mans drug.
2. He ATTACKED ZIMMERMAN......! That is not an "innocent" person!

So STOP LYING!!!

[_just me]

Zimmerman is an awful person.

The fact is that we need stronger privacy laws that protect people from having their private pictures and address/phone posted without permission. There needs to be a consequence beyond losing your Twitter account.

It's interesting that Zimmerman seems to have worked his way backwards from how Dear went. Dear ended with shooting people and that is where Zimmerman began.

Will Zimmerman be able to keep himself out of trouble or will his life be one full of run-ins with the law?