EAllusion's example of how liberals use facts to lie.....

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EAllusion's example of how liberals use facts to lie.....

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Original thread.... since it wasn't responded to.
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=40059

I said:
- No conservative would shoot up a "disabled education center". If angry enough and things are bad enough evil having triumphed we might shoot other things, people, but certainly not that.


EAllusion said:
Since 9/11 there have been 27 fatal terrorist attacks in the United States. Of those, 20 were by people belonging to traditional right-wing groups in the United States. The majority of those were related to abortion. 7 others were domestic Islamic attacks. So all came from reactionary conservatives with conservative motives. I don't say this to besmirch conservatives generally. It's just that there clearly are radical conservative groups comfortable shooting up all sorts of places. Weirdly, a large amount of them hail from the Carolinas.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_ ... olina.html


I then completely debunk.....

LOL wow..... Nice liberal lying cherry pick of data there.....
I see doing a "Google Search".... All the various liberal websites is where you got that lying brainwashing.

First let's look at one of the so-called "Right Wing Terrorist" attacks......

2010 Carlisle, PA Murder - 1
In 2010 Raymond Peake killed a man at a gun range in Carlisle, Pennsylvania in order to steal an AR-15. Peake told investigators he stole the weapon for use in an organization seeking the overthrow of the American government that he refused to name. Peake pleaded no contest in 2012.

LOL..... That's the liberal version of "terrorism". Simply some man killing one person to steal his gun, and simply because he "claimed" he did so for some "secret" organization.... That's really the truth. haa haaa
The guy was clearly mentally ill, or just wanted a gun and needed to make up something.
Further, since when was killing "1" person "terrorism"??? Please tell me.... LOL :eek:

I mean good lord.... Looking over most of your claimed right wing "terrorists".... http://securitydata.newamerica.net/extr ... tacks.html
Very few of them should be classified as such. Another example is a guy "apparently" was a white supremacist, so you liberals just claim his killing a couple of people was based in that, rather than he was just a slimeball criminal, which is clearly all the evidence was.

Also important, note how this newamerica.net website completely omits leftist extremism.
In fact, if you do a Google search, there isn't a single liberal website that fairly puts right vs. leftist extremists, they all ONLY show Right extremists, as if the right are the only ones who commit extreme acts.

Second, I'm not going to pretend there is nobody on the "right" who has never done something bad, against whatever target for whatever reason.
So, sure.... some on your stupid "right wing" list can be classified as nuts on the right, but really....

by the way, your list fails to mention all the FAILED Islamic Terrorist actions since 9/11.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_u ... _post-9/11

Something like 31.....
Clearly so-called right wing terrorism isn't as great as you claim, especially given the above fact that MOST of your right wing terrorists clearly didn't do what they did for any actual "political/religious" reason.

Third, your listing fails to list all the "Leftists"..... who have commited so-called "terroristic" acts.
Of course, your definition of "terrorist" like the guy above who killed for a gun is so BROAD it's almost useless. We certainly wouldn't qualify such a person as a terrorist. Here's more information: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/4 ... -overhyped

But, let's look at some "lefty's".....

This site does a balanced approach of religious and both left and right violence/terrorism.
http://markhumphrys.com/left.right.violence.html

Go down the page a little and pay attention to the Modern terrorism in the US section.
It's actually the FBI's listing of terrorism, which clearly shows Leftists are the biggest terrorists, rather than your liberal made-up list that try's to show the right as terrorists.

Go down further and especially read A leftist's survey of left v. right violence and Attacks assigned to the "right" to see how liberals misreprsent the truth in who's who and who does what.

I should also point out that “FBI Most Wanted Terrorists”…30 Muslims and 2 Progressive Liberals. NO Right-Wing Patriots.
http://www.dcclothesline.com/2013/05/04 ... -patriots/

Some information: http://www.tomatobubble.com/left_wing_terror.html

I would also like to point out that basically ALL "Assassins" of U.S. Presidents have been Leftist.
One his family was a part of the right, but he killed over a woman he was infactuated with, not for any political ideology.
From the information and history provided every single one otherwise was on the Left. (by the way, not sure about attempted assassins, but I think that's included, can't remember now since I researched this subject).

This is a large listing..... http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/terrorism/wrjp255a.html
I've found several errors however of those they claimed were on the right. Several clearly weren't, such as the very first listing of John Wilkes Booth.
He was clearly on the left per his beliefs, let alone given the fact that Lincoln was on the Right, Right don't kill Right.

From the listing as is there's like 40 on the Right and 30 on the Left.
Of course, several of the rights are clearly off, so I would say they are likely about even likely 35 vs 35 or so, at least according to this listing of events.
But, given the FBI listing above, right or left not sure how accurate this page is in classifying, especially if they can make such a big error as the Lincoln one. I suspect a Leftist made this list. I trust the FBI one, it's the only professional listing of any.

Don't know why the Left always misrepresent history. Just because the Right believes in States Rights, does not somehow mean that everything else about them is on the right. Leftists do the same thing with Nazi Germany. Just because Hitler said some Christian things in a book, and Nationalized Corporations, doesn't somehow make him on the "Right". Everything about him was Leftist otherwise, including his race views which Margarate Singer also had some of, the founder of Planned Parenthood who by the way has succeeded in helping to eliminate undesirables by Abortion to where in New York more babies are killed than born by blacks.

Anyway..... As can be seen with the actual FULL FACTS and truth, contrary to the lying liberal ones, those on the "Right" aren't big in the "terrorism" business.
Sure, we've had a few (most really who don't follow are beliefs but are racists and distorations, thus their OWN group really), but as we can see Lefist Terrorism and Islamic Terrorism is by far the biggest actual terrorists.

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Ah.... Found this also...

http://therionorteline.com/2013/04/17/h ... -violence/

Includes several links to various listings etc. Here's one example from one link....

List of Recent Left Wing Terrorists Inspired By Democrat Media Propaganda

Leo Burt- Bombed Colleges, Part of Left Wing Terrorist Group 'New Years Eve Gang'.

Jeff Jones - Bombed Pentagon, Killed Police, Current CEO of Appolo Alliance, An eco group funded by Obama

Berandine Dorn - Bombed Petnagon, Killed Police, Obamas friend, baby sat Obamas Kids.

Bill Ayers - Bombed Pentagon, Killed Police, Obamas Best Friend, Wrote Obamas Book.

Amy Bishop- college professor obsessed with Obama, shot 6 people.

Jared Loughter - killed 6 year old girl and shot gabby giffords

James holmes - Batman shooter

John Patrick Bedell -petnagon shooter

Floyd Lee Corkins - Chick Fil A Shooter

David Guy McKay - Plotted to bomb the Pentagon, caught first

Bradley Neil Crowder - Plotted to bomb the Pentagon, caught first

Antonio Martinez - Bombed a Recruiting Station

Una Bomber - Another left wing college professor psychopath

James with. Von Brunn - Holocaust Museum Shooter

Andrew Joseph Stack III - Bush Hating Leftist Who Flew His airplane into IRS building 9/11 style

Ryan Komosinski - Occupy Wall Street, Caught in BOmb Plot.

Brandon Baxter -Occupy Wall Street Protester Caught Planning to Blow Up Bridges

Douglas Wright - Occupy Wall Street Protester Caught Planning to Blow Up Bridges

Anthony Hayne -Occupy Wall Street Protester Caught Planning to Blow Up Bridges

Connor C. Stevens- Occupy Wall Street Protester Caught Planning to Blow Up Bridges

Joshua S. Stafford -Occupy Wall Street Protester Caught Planning to Blow Up Bridges

Read more at http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ba6_1345 ... q1JTQ1z.99

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by the way, let it not be said that I don't provide the necessary facts and evidence of things.
I do this all the time, as each of you should very well know.
Yet, I keep getting personally attacked by you people (Lemmie being the latest) trying to force me to back up my claims every single time I say something, when I've already done so several times before.

Sorry, like I've said, I'm not your bitches..... You can do the same research I do.
Gather all the facts, all sides, and study it all out for the actual truth.

Here I've shown yet again how the liberal doesn't properly study things out for the truth, they just believe whatever Leftism tells them is true.
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ldsfaqs wrote:I then completely debunk.....


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fuqqs wrote:Original thread.... since it wasn't responded to

Rather than repeat unresponded to posts, how about providing references for your alleged facts as requested (multiple times just in the last few days) and citations for your plagiarized posts (also multiple times last few days)?

fuqs wrote:Yet, I keep getting personally attacked by you people (Lemmie being the latest) trying to force me to back up my claims every single time I say something, when I've already done so several times before.

Sorry, like I've said, I'm not your bitches..... You can do the same research I do.


Sorry, lds, but no one can "do the same research" that you do. There is a limit to a sane person's imagination.

And since you mentioned it again, you really want to argue you are not someone's bitch? what's up with that?
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ldsfaqs wrote:
Sorry, like I've said, I'm not your bitches.....


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:lol:

I seriously wonder how many people have actually read all the way through any of ldsfaq's many posts. I just can't do it. At most I'll make it through the first couple of sentences just until i realize just how retarded his post is going to be.
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Gifs....
Personal Attacks.....
Ignoring facts....
Not reading....
Ignoring references....
Ignoring videos....
Saying you won't read.....
Saying you won't watch.....

These are all symptoms of the liberal ignorant mind, and why they remain ignorant, bigots, liars, etc.
Me.... I do ALL of the above to every one of your guys threads, and yet there are MORE of you people than me.
I may not read every single post sometimes in a thread, but I make sure I know and understand ALL available information before I respond etc.

Not a single one of you engaged the information and research provided, or my responces. You all do this all the time.
You entirely ignore the fact that I entirely debunked a common liberal claim, one that every liberal website states as a simple Google Search with show i.e. "conservatives are the terrorists". It is a complete liberal lie, yet like everything, liberals aren't interested in the actual truth of anything, so they mock and deride instead.

So, who's "really" the ignorant, brainwashed, foolish, etc.? It's not me.
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ldsfaqs wrote:Ignoring videos....
Saying you won't read.....
Saying you won't watch.....
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Oh, wait. You mean like this thread in which I watch your video multiple times as well as the actual speech that First Lady Obama gave, but you didn't? Like that?

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=38145&hilit=michelle+obama

Glad you finally admitted you were wrong on that thread.

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just me wrote:
ldsfaqs wrote:Ignoring videos....
Saying you won't read.....
Saying you won't watch.....
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Oh, wait. You mean like this thread in which I watch your video multiple times as well as the actual speech that First Lady Obama gave, but you didn't? Like that?

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=38145&hilit=michelle+obama

Glad you finally admitted you were wrong on that thread.


And here the liberal lies yet again.....

I never said I didn't watch Michelle's video.... I in fact did like the day before.
It's why I knew and understood EXACTLY what he was talking about concerning her video, even though his video didn't "quote" it too much, his video was more "ideological" oriented concerning what she said, not quoting her directly.

So, are you going to appolgize for lying about me?
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