Obama now wants guns from these 47,000 people....

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Re: Obama now wants guns from these 47,000 people....

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ldsfaqs wrote:http://www.wnd.com/2015/12/obama-now-wants-guns-from-these-47000-people/

Not even Marines, air marshals, congressmen, journalists and babies safe from scheme
Just wow..... Obama and liberals are so out of touch.


I think that linking to the LA Times instead will be better than linking to World Net Daily on making the point against President Obama's position on this issue.

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/editoria ... story.html

One problem is that the people on the no-fly list (as well as the broader terror watch list from which it is drawn) have not been convicted of doing anything wrong. They are merely suspected of having terror connections. And the United States doesn't generally punish or penalize people unless and until they have been charged and convicted of a crime. In this case, the government would be infringing on a right guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution — and yes, like it or not, the right to buy a gun is a constitutional right according to the U.S. Supreme Court.

How certain is it that the people on the two lists are dangerous? Well, we don't really know, because the no-fly-list and the broader watch list are government secrets. People are not notified when they are put on, nor why, and they usually don't discover they have been branded suspected terrorists until they try to travel somewhere.

But serious flaws in the list have been identified. According to the American Civil Liberties Union, which is suing the government over the no-fly list, the two lists include thousands of names that have been added in error, as well as the names of family members of suspected terrorists. The no-fly list has also been used to deny boarding passes to people who only share a name with a suspected terrorist. Former Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-Mass.) was famously questioned at airports in 2004 because a terror suspect had used the alias "T. Kennedy." It took the senator's office three weeks to get his name cleared.
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Re: Obama now wants guns from these 47,000 people....

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I confess, I didn't read the article. I'm getting tired of extremists of the left or right. :rolleyes:
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honorentheos wrote:
ldsfaqs wrote:Not even Marines...

Because prior military service makes one a patriot-saint, is that the implication?

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ldsfaqs wrote:http://www.wnd.com/2015/12/obama-now-wants-guns-from-these-47000-people/

Not even Marines, air marshals, congressmen, journalists and babies safe from scheme
Just wow..... Obama and liberals are so out of touch.


A pathetic bit of naïve identity politics.
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Re: Obama now wants guns from these 47,000 people....

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deacon blues wrote:I confess, I didn't read the article. I'm getting tired of extremists of the left or right. :rolleyes:


I concur.
Extremism of any sort is tiresome, damaging and ultimately of no constructive worth to society in general.
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