Imam forced to resign for agreeing with Trump....

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MissTish wrote:If you get a DUI and are banned from driving for a year, are you an air conditioner?


But it's not really a ban. I don't see why faqs is quibbling over a word. The issue is stopping people of a certain religion from entering the US. Not many better ways can we make the situation worse and break the law at the same time. Create more hate leading to more violence.
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MissTish wrote:If you get a DUI and are banned from driving for a year,are you an air conditioner?


Strawman....
I actually "did something wrong"..... and a court ruled against me for breaking a law.
Thus in THAT sense, you are using "banned" correctly. Yes, I'm banned from driving a car.

Halting "movement" temporarily to fix something is NOT "banning".
Do you really not comprehend?

Further, let's say "banning" is okay to say about it.
I would actually be fine with it's usage (because it's a "related" word) but the problem is.... the LYING by liberals, is they omit two KEY FACTS of what Trump said.

1. Temporary Halting (not in fact a ban).
2. Only until the government fixes and improves the checking system.

Those two important facts makes clear it has nothing to do with "banning, with bigotry/racism (another lie liberals also say about it), and has nothing to do with being anti-Muslim, etc. etc. as liberals say. So, the liberal lies in multiple ways. As I said in another thread on this subject.
You use a "little truth" to outright lie..... The little truth is you mention "ban" which is a form of restriction (but is still a half truth, not what he actually said), but you don't mention what he was actually meaning, and you don't mention the key reasons, which explains it.

The liberal simply says Trump was "banning" Muslims, thus making him out to be a bigot RATHER than what he was actually meaning, which would make him NOT a bigot.

See, this is how liberals lie about everything and about conservatives.
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Re: Imam forced to resign for agreeing with Trump....

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ldsfaqs wrote:
Brad Hudson wrote:
I've already said why and how several times on this forum..... But, I'll explain it again just for you.

Liberals have been saying over and over again, in all their articles, in media, etc. that Trump is "banning" all Muslims from entering the U.S.
They entirely omit in 99% of cases what he actually said.

He said the government should put a "halt" on Muslim Immigration "until" the government can get it's act together and figure out proper standards, etc. on who and why we let people in so as to prevent as little Islamic terrorist acts as possible.

Halting something Temporarily to fix something is not "banning" that something.....
I understand liberals don't understand words, but this is getting ridiculous.

This is liberal "logic"..... if you say you're going to turn off the Air Conditioner in order to fix it, then you are in fact BANNING the Air Conditioner from EVER working or being used again.


Once again, faqs, you are the liar. At this point, it's pathological with you. You put the word halt in quotation marks and in boldface. Now, let's test your honesty. Watch the clip again where Trump reads from his own announcement. Now, respond with the time tic where Trump describes his proposal as a "halt."

Here's the man's description in his own words: "total and complete shutdown" of the U.S border to Muslims. In what universe is the word "ban" not an accurate word to apply to "total and complete shutdown" of our borders to Muslims?

Of course, a ban can be temporary or permanent. This one is indefinite and could be permanent. The condition for lifting it is so subjective and so nebulous that there is no good reason to believe it ever will be lifted. By the way, your description of the conditions for lifting the ban is also not what Trump said.

You're the liar. FAQs. You.
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MissTish wrote:So, a temporary ban.


More accurately, an indefinite ban.
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ffuuqqss wrote:Halting "movement" temporarily to fix something is NOT "banning".
Do you really not comprehend?


the Entire English-speaking World except for ffqqs wrote:/ban/

verb: ban; 3rd person present: bans; past tense: banned; past participle: banned; gerund or present participle: banning

1.officially or legally prohibit.
"he was banned from driving for a year"


The dictionary disagrees with you. But that's nothing new, is it ???????? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Lemmie wrote:
ffuuqqss wrote:Halting "movement" temporarily to fix something is NOT "banning".
Do you really not comprehend?


the Entire English-speaking World except for ffqqs wrote:/ban/

verb: ban; 3rd person present: bans; past tense: banned; past participle: banned; gerund or present participle: banning

1.officially or legally prohibit.
"he was banned from driving for a year"


The dictionary disagrees with you. But that's nothing new, is it ???????? :lol: :lol: :lol:


Nope.... Because I already stating that "banning" from driving IS an appropriate usage of the word.
But as usual, the anti-mormon can't read and comprehend, but that's what's actually nothing new.
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LDSFAQ:
Non Sequitur, and Ad Hominem address the argument not the arguer.
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Brad Hudson wrote:Once again, faqs, you are the liar. At this point, it's pathological with you. You put the word halt in quotation marks and in boldface. Now, let's test your honesty. Watch the clip again where Trump reads from his own announcement. Now, respond with the time tic where Trump describes his proposal as a "halt."

Here's the man's description in his own words: "total and complete shutdown" of the U.S border to Muslims. In what universe is the word "ban" not an accurate word to apply to "total and complete shutdown" of our borders to Muslims?

Of course, a ban can be temporary or permanent. This one is indefinite and could be permanent. The condition for lifting it is so subjective and so nebulous that there is no good reason to believe it ever will be lifted. By the way, your description of the conditions for lifting the ban is also not what Trump said.

You're the liar. FAQs. You.


It's simply so amazing how the liberal lies..... even though I clearly list/show how. The "pathology" is with the liberal.
Liberalism IS a mental disorder....

1. A "shutdown" is just that, a shutdown..... It's not a "ban". Ban CAN be used as I said (if you've actually READ what I said), but only if being accurate in INCLUDING the other necessary information. But, it's not the most accurate word to describe the situation. But more so, most liberal articles etc. don't mention the other necessary information, and the reasons why, etc., a.k.a. CONTEXT. Almost ALL of you liberals have made is seem like Trump was saying to "ban Muslims"..... which is an utter and outright LIE.... That makes YOU the liar.

2. He specifically states the word "until"..... which don't know why you don't understand English means "temporary". There is no "either or" like you try to claim, especially your "indefinate" or "permanent" LIE....

3. My "conditions" is the CONTEXT of what he was talking about. Those of us who actually listen, and study facts and news, have seen and heard many interviews etc. from government and law enforcement associated with the checking system for entry that there are MANY problems that need to be fixed. THAT is what Trump was responding about when he made the statement. And he most certainly said "until they get their crap together" (paraphrasing)..... which IS the primary condition, and what I expounded upon.

You're the liar..... Hudson. YOU!
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The CCC wrote:LDSFAQ:
Non Sequitur, and Ad Hominem address the argument not the arguer.


Follow your own advice.... At least 99.9% of the time when I personally attack, I'm addressing the arguments foremost.
You people however 99% of the time post personal attacks while actually arguing 1% of the time (yes a small exageration), more so around 60% personal attacks 40% with some actual argument thown in for good measure.
(note also how your post above is in fact a personal attack, saying ZERO about the subject matter)
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Lemmie wrote:
ffuuqqss wrote:Halting "movement" temporarily to fix something is NOT "banning".
Do you really not comprehend?


the Entire English-speaking World except for ffqqs wrote:/ban/

verb: ban; 3rd person present: bans; past tense: banned; past participle: banned; gerund or present participle: banning

1.officially or legally prohibit.
"he was banned from driving for a year"


The dictionary disagrees with you. But that's nothing new, is it ???????? :lol: :lol: :lol:

ffuuqqss wrote:Nope.... Because I already stating that "banning" from driving IS an appropriate usage of the word.
But as usual, the anti-mormon can't read and comprehend, but that's what's actually nothing new.


Again, the point missed by ffuuqqss. Again, nothing new.
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