Another liberal shows his Facism and Violent tendencies....

[_ldsfaqs]

http://denver.cbslocal.com/2015/12/11/a ... -of-trump/

Just goes to show the kinds of people that are in places of power, that effect "change" in society.

[_Res Ipsa]

This is what happens when a demagogue foments fear and anger. It has nothing to do with conservative or liberal. It has to do with how our brains are wired. The Bible has it right: sow the wind and reap the whirlwind. Trump et al are sowing the wind. The whirlwind won't just be from American Muslims who feel threatened. It will be from Americans of all flavors who fear fascism coming to America.

When you post your attempts to demonize all liberals, you are doing the same.

[_EAllusion]

What he said was terrible, but he also is a relatively insignificant person who was condemned and forced to resign immediately. Seems like the process works in that case. That doesn't compare favorably with people you are actively a fan of continuing to both say horribly fascist things and not lose your or millions of other people's support.

Ted Cruz just threated to nuke the middle East. Not only is the content of that threat horrific, it probably has the practical effect of making it much more reasonable for other nations to pursue nuclear weapons to defend themselves from the prospect of a tyrant winning the US presidency. It's generally not a good thing when people within grasp of the presidency are hyperbolically announcing themselves to be the greatest threat to human civilization. Is Cruz going to resign? Is he going to receive widespread condemnation from his followers? Are you even going to condemn him? Probably not.

[_EAllusion]

I think we've finally hit the point that there is a large contingent of Republicans that can reasonably be described as fascists. I've been worried about growing quasi-fascism in the party for years, but it's gotten to the point that it's more of a full-blown case. There clearly are leaders wiling to step in to exploit or be counted as a fellow-traveler with these fascist tendencies. This is deeply alarming.

I don't advocate assassinating those leaders and I sure as hell am not Ok with killing average voters, but I think it is Ok to wonder about why we think assassination of fellow citizens is not Ok, specially if we also believe it is Ok in the case of particularly bad foreign leaders. The problem is that people in positions of high power have the capacity to have significant, far-reaching influence. So to determine whether they live and continue or die and be replaced has a lot of impact on the overall welfare of everyone. If Bobby Kennedy wasn't killed, it is a near statistical certainty that the US would have a Canadian-style health-care system right now. Think about how different that would be. If you are the sort of thinker, like faqs, who believes that socialized medicine is an apocalypse, how do you not regard Kennedy's death as a good thing? I think there are answers to this question, but I also think it is a tough question.

The US is teetering on the political party that controls the house, the senate, the judiciary, a super-majority of governorships and state legislatures, and possibly soon the presidency being run-over by legitimate fascists. For people who like to imagine how they'd react if they were in 20th century fascist societies now's your chance to explain what it is you're supposed to be doing right now.

[_The CCC]

To play off of Rafael "Ted" Cruz's own words; Do we really want any Republican candidate with his finger on the button?
SEE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBrcTpV211I

[_ldsfaqs]

You people are so funny but utterly sad.....

You call Anarchy "freedom" such as in lack of controlled immigration, yet when conservatives want to actually "conserve" American way of life through controlled immigration instead of anarchy, lives itself, etc. etc. we are somehow "fascists". LOL

All the while, you people are the actual fascists in your state controls of everything with human behavior ideology's and taxation.
And you're all..... "oh no, we aren't fascists, we believe in freedom" bullship....
I mean, there are literally 1,000's of examples, just just one you fascists forced GM to sale their ONLY actually profitable car line (the Hummer) to a Chinese company. An all American car..... a profitable one, given to China because of liberal fascism in wanting to FORCE all cars (not even exceptions) to be small and electric, and not actually "American" as apple pie.

You're not fascists? And you claim we are the fascists? Utterly astounding how you people pervert things.

[_Res Ipsa]

I think we've finally hit the point that there is a large contingent of Republicans that can reasonably be described as fascists. I've been worried about growing quasi-fascism in the party for years, but it's gotten to the point that it's more of a full-blown case. There clearly are leaders wiling to step in to exploit or be counted as a fellow-traveler with these fascist tendencies. This is deeply alarming.

I don't advocate assassinating those leaders and I sure as hell am not Ok with killing average voters, but I think it is Ok to wonder about why we think assassination of fellow citizens is not Ok, specially if we also believe it is Ok in the case of particularly bad foreign leaders. The problem is that people in positions of high power have the capacity to have significant, far-reaching influence. So to determine whether they live and continue or die and be replaced has a lot of impact on the overall welfare of everyone. If Bobby Kennedy wasn't killed, it is a near statistical certainty that the US would have a Canadian-style health-care system right now. Think about how different that would be. If you are the sort of thinker, like faqs, who believes that socialized medicine is an apocalypse, how do you not regard Kennedy's death as a good thing? I think there are answers to this question, but I also think it is a tough question.

The US is teetering on the political party that controls the house, the senate, the judiciary, a super-majority of governorships and state legislatures, and possibly soon the presidency being run-over by legitimate fascists. For people who like to imagine how they'd react if they were in 20th century fascist societies now's your chance to explain what it is you're supposed to be doing right now.

I agree with your conclusions about today's Republicans. I'm afraid that our system and values are being put to a test that we may not pass. But I also try to work very hard to avoid acting out of fear. If we all start acting out of fear, then our primate brains will drive us to a very bad result. We have to engage our relatively newer, and much more fragile, frontal cortexes. And, frankly, mine is kind of baffled when I try to figure out how to act.

[_EAllusion]

All the while, you people are the actual fascists in your state controls of everything with human behavior ideology's and taxation.
And you're all..... "oh no, we aren't fascists, we believe in freedom" bullship....
I mean, there are literally 1,000's of examples, just just one you fascists forced GM to sale their ONLY actually profitable car line (the Hummer) to a Chinese company. An all American car..... a profitable one, given to China because of liberal fascism in wanting to FORCE all cars (not even exceptions) to be small and electric, and not actually "American" as apple pie.

You're not fascists? And you claim we are the fascists? Utterly astounding how you people pervert things.

I realize you can't think beyond a simple black-white dichotomy, but stuff like this still surprises me as I read it. You must dimly remember that I'm a libertarian. I favor lower taxes than you do.

[_ldsfaqs]

All the while, you people are the actual fascists in your state controls of everything with human behavior ideology's and taxation.
And you're all..... "oh no, we aren't fascists, we believe in freedom" bullship....
I mean, there are literally 1,000's of examples, just just one you fascists forced GM to sale their ONLY actually profitable car line (the Hummer) to a Chinese company. An all American car..... a profitable one, given to China because of liberal fascism in wanting to FORCE all cars (not even exceptions) to be small and electric, and not actually "American" as apple pie.

You're not fascists? And you claim we are the fascists? Utterly astounding how you people pervert things.

I realize you can't think beyond a simple black-white dichotomy, but stuff like this still surprises me as I read it. You must dimly remember that I'm a libertarian. I favor lower taxes than you do.

I don't care what you think you are, when 99% of the time on this forum you're supporting liberal ideology's, judgments of things, thinking, etc. etc. then you're a liberal. In fact, that's one thing wrong with libertarians, they are like liberals to much, anti-war, all drugs legal, etc. just like liberals, occupy poop street, etc. Of course, you've taken it much further with full agreement of liberal ideology's and thinking to where me as a true blue righty conservative/libertarian recognizes almost nothing you say as being on the right.

[_EAllusion]

That's fine and all, but you cite some examples of "you people's" (meaning my) fascist views that don't apply. Your humorous igonorance on fascism aside, I don't favor high taxes. In fact, it's almost certain I favor lower taxes than you if you want the government to pay for the programs you favor. Does that make you a fascist by your own twisted reckoning?

I like how in one breath you cite my fascism because of my alleged ultra-vague desire for the state to control human behavior. Then in the other you criticize me for wanting to legalize people's right to use drugs. Good call there.