Contrasting Liberal Occupy vs. Conservative Occupy....

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Contrasting Liberal Occupy vs. Conservative Occupy....

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As we know some Freedom loving people "occupied" an out in the middle of know-where Wildlife Office, they didn't hurt anyone, they didn't threaten anyone, they did nothing other than make clear they would defend themselves..... They did have guns for self defense, to make clear they have the right to protest, and that the land/offices belongs to the people first, not the government. They were entirely in every way peacefully protesting... There is no sign of them "damaging" the property or otherwise.

The FBI comes out, issues warrants for various people, then at one point a group is peacefully going to a meeting, they are stopped, then continue, and then they are ran off the road, you can even see an officer actually run at the car as if he's intentionally trying to get himself run over. They then proceed to shoot the car up the heck, and use all kinds of other things, the passengers in the car do nothing but try not to get shot. The driver then comes out with his hands up, according to witnesses he's shot, and then that is when he put's his hands down, though the first might have been to simply steddy himself, ends up he's shot 9 times. So, deadly force and the force of law is used against peaceful freedom loving people.

In contrast....

Liberals primarily in the form of Occupy Wallstreet and/or the Wisconsin protests, take over government property and grounds, even fully taking over the Capital building itself, sleeping there, etc. They, were not armed, but the shear "number" of people made it so the government couldn't do anything. It occurs right in downtown areas, thus they are entirely interferring with public use and movement, they do some 1 Million in damage and other related costs because of their occupying.

The only thing the FBI does is investigate threats to Politicians. Nobody is shot, there is some minor police abusing authority, but it's people no different than Oregon taking over government property to have their views heard.

Conclusion....

As can be seen, this is a clear example of how liberals have permiated the government, and because the "cause" isn't their values and agenda, they willfully use deadly force, as well as engage in "criminal" charges against the protestors in Oregon, but when Liberals protest and occupy, they do nothing. They don't issue arrest warrents for the "leaders"..... they don't try to shoot them and even do shoot them and kill them.

So, tell us again how liberals aren't Fascists.....? They just used deadly force against peaceful protestors, yet if it was liberals, you all would be entirely against it. But because it's a conservative cause, land rights, and government abuse of power against land owners and users of public lands, you liberals think it's perfectly fine for calling them "Terrorists" and thinking they should be arrested and even killed. You all even PRAISE that one was killed and they were arrested. Why aren't Liberal occupiers "terrorists"? Why don't liberal leaders etc. deserve to be arrested and killed? Because they weren't armed? Being armed is a Constitutional and Civil Right..... so that's not an excuse. Because they tried to kill government leaders....? They threatened to kill? Nope.... ONLY in self defense yes they postured. But they did nothing and said nothing that would require the usage of deadly force or needing to be arrested. They said and did ZERO different from liberal protesters...... the only difference is they were armed, and stated their willingness to defend their liberty if shot at first. Absolutely nothing else was different in their protesting compared with Liberal protesting other than subject matter. They were driving to a public meeting for crying out loud, and they didn't even actually defend themselves when they were being shot at, being in a tin can, thus clearly they weren't intent on killing anyone..... Only the Government was intent on killing someone, and they did.....

Liberalism is evil..... and this shows it clear as day.

by the way..... Any good law enforcement officer doesn't shoot someone just because they move a certain way, IF he was supposedly reaching down.
They wait for the person to actually have a WEAPON IN HAND or they see it being nearly in hand....! Which that good Mormon man didn't at all.
Note how it's convenient they didn't release "sound"? Note also with all the video there, they only release an at distance can't bearly tell anything video, instead of dash cams, person cams, etc.? Note how at one point in the video you see them pumping rounds into the front windshield clearly attempting to kill the occupants, and according to the witnesses there, lots more rounds hit the truck as well that he was shot in cold blood?

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(the above text image was made by an old man, thus forgive his spelling/typing skills, got if off a Youtube video somewhere out there)

Video which shares some of this thoughts well before this..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EWfGtQvyb4

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Update, answers to some of the comments below....

Sure they broke the law in the act of Protesting.... which is American as Apple Pie.
Protesting has NEVER required "violent governmental force" unless it's a Fascist government (such as what historically has been done against blacks or other country's actions against people), or the Protesters are harming others such as the Whiskey Rebellion.

Liberals were not made "criminals" when they Illegally Occupied and did damage intentionally to the Wisconsin Capital Building or Federal Property, in contrast to the Bundy's who was simply doing maintenance adjustments to the Refuge property so vehicles could get through etc.
(And FYI in case you don't get it, staying there overnight when it's supposed to be closed is ILLEGAL occupying, the Refuge is sometimes open also, so just because the Capital Building is sometimes open doesn't make it any less illegal for them to occupy).

Liberals were not made criminals when they've occupied other things illegally such as Occupy Wallstreet.
The only differences between the Bundy's and liberals were the Bundy's were nicer about it and cleaner, they protested out in the middle of know-where so they didn't interfere with peoples lives as much as possible, and they were armed for self defense period.

Yet, in the liberal fascist mind, can't have conservatives protesting..... They must be shut down by the state!
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Supporting whiny, treasonous, lawbreaking blowhards again? That's so cute! : )
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Liberals primarily in the form of Occupy Wallstreet and/or the Wisconsin protests, take over government property and grounds, even fully taking over the Capital building itself, sleeping there, etc. They, were not armed, but the shear "number" of people made it so the government couldn't do anything. It occurs right in downtown areas, thus they are entirely interferring with public use and movement, they do some 1 Million in damage and other related costs because of their occupying.

The Capitol building in Madison was open to the public. It was a legal protest. The Walker administration with the backing of the Republican legislature changed the law after the protests, but at that point this was within accepted use of the grounds. The free movement of people around the square was not impeded despite the thousands upon thousands of people who were there. I know, because I was there on a few occasions and moved about fine. It was like an extremely busy Taste of Madison event. You'll notice that the businesses on the square functioned fine during this time.

The million dollar public cost of the protests is an exaggerated number, though oddly down from the inflated numbers circulated on right-wing websites at the time. It's like it's ldsfaq's personal remembering of a fictitious number. The wear-and-tear damages from the protests ended up being a little under 300k.
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Re: Contrasting Liberal Occupy vs. Conservative Occupy....

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faqs, can you articulate - in your own words - what our treasonous band of tantrum throwers in Oregan needed? I mean, besides French Vanilla coffee creamer and gaming supplies?

Before you begin, remember that this example below won't count as an actual response:

typical ldsfaqs response wrote:Guvermint Bad! Want Freedum's!! Evil Librul's!!1!!


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Re: Contrasting Liberal Occupy vs. Conservative Occupy....

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Here is what George Washington did to armed insurrectionists.
SEE https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiskey_Rebellion
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That video can't even spell American correctly.
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Re: Contrasting Liberal Occupy vs. Conservative Occupy....

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ldsfaqs wrote:(the above text image was made by an old man, thus forgive his spelling/typing skills, got if off a Youtube video somewhere out there)


Did the same old man write your OP?

out in the middle of know-where Wildlife Office
the Capital building itself
to simply steddy himself
but the shear "number" of people
how liberals have permiated the government

ldsfaqs wrote: They did have guns for self defense, to make clear they have the right to protest...
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Being armed is a Constitutional and Civil Right..... so that's not an excuse



It's against US Code 18 U.S.C. 930 to carry a firearm inside a federal facility (like the building the 'protestors' occupied at Malheur). This extends even to CCP holders in places such as Post Offices or VA buildings, you may have noticed the signs.

That was the first of many mistakes made by this group.
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Re: Contrasting Liberal Occupy vs. Conservative Occupy....

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They came armed to kill any one who tried to stop them. So not really a mistake, but of a deliberate action.
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Re: Contrasting Liberal Occupy vs. Conservative Occupy....

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Truly sad liberal intellectual skills and morality....

There is literally no difference between the two events other than the firearms which is a constitutional and civil right, and it being federal property is irrelevant, especially when it's rural property in which exceptions are made for that law, just like you all praise Obama for being so "gun friendly" that he signed a law allowing firearms to be carried in National Parks.

And to the idiot who said the Wisconsin protests were all "legal"..... bull.
They took over the Capital Building, sleep in there, etc. for a couple of weeks, which was completely illegal. Capital Buildings are not "free rain" do what you want when you want. They close, all kinds of things. That situation was absolutely no different than the Oregan people. Both Occupied against the "rules" period.

Anyway, it is truly sad how willingly fascist you liberals are.... I show clearly two situtations that are literaly no different, save the arms.
Just because liberals don't like guns and chose to be disarmed doesn't mean anything.

They both took over public property and buildings, and they both were expressing grievences and did NO HARM and threatened no harm to anyone (unless they were attacked). It's truly facinating to me how evil and warped the liberal mind is, how when it concerns conservatives, they entirely shut off their brains and morality, and become Fascists, but when it concerns their cause, they want all the rights and freedom in the world, especially wrongly, such as their Protests in Wisconsin and Occupy Wallstreet. One was bad law, and entitlement that liberals wanted to maintain, and the other was blaiming Wallstreet for what Liberal Lawmakers forced Wallstreet to do.

Oh well..... As I prove over and over again, liberals and liberalism is corruption, perversion, lying, and not based in Freedom.
Whether you all agreed or not they should have had guns or not, you should if you all had actual character and weren't hypocrites, recognize that they had every right to protest by "occupation", and that for occupying doesn't deserve arrest and death. PERIOD..... It's as simple as that. Yet you all fully support it, simply because of ideological differences, you being fine with Government abuse and takeover of land against the Constitution, and Conservatives not being so.
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ldsfaqs wrote:Capital Buildings are not "free rain"


Post of the day :lol:

ldsfaqs wrote:and it being federal property is irrelevant, especially when it's rural property in which exceptions are made for that law


Please point out the code that creates this claimed exemption. P!ease note when providing your detailed answer the code I posted applies to federal facilities, not just federal property.

I await your information.

ldsfaqs wrote:Whether you all agreed or not they should have had guns or not, you should if you all had actual character and weren't hypocrites, recognize that they had every right to protest by "occupation", and that for occupying doesn't deserve arrest and death. PERIOD.....


No one was killed for 'protesting by occupation'.That is not why LaVoy was shot.
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