Maksutov wrote:Well, FAQS, for the record I thought that the Occupy folks were largely pretentious vagrants and scofflaws. So there's that. But this guy? He was a traitor. He sought to take up arms against his government. Traitors are often called patriots by those sympathetic to them. But he sought to bring down the government that is produced by the Constitution that he waved around and never read. His death was unfortunate. I wish it hadn't happened. I'm sorry for his family's loss. But this man was not a hero but a traitor who wanted suicide by cop and he got it. He joins Bob Mathews and Gordon Kahl in the gallery of violent extremists who met violent ends. R.I.P.
You need to educate yourself by watching the various videos of them..... There are a few videos of Finicam who he was, what he was doing and believed such as this one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EWfGtQvyb4 He knew the Constitution far better than you. They/he was not at all what you are claiming. In fact, the complete opposite.
I have watched the videos and discussed them with others. It's very clear. I also looked at the "novel" he wrote that glorifies killing federal officials. Sorry, that reminds me of the Turner Diaries and Tim McVeigh. That's your heroes for you.
Finicum chose his own death. His knowledge of the Constitution was never displayed. He seemed to think that the Declaration of Independence justifies treason. George Washington would have shot him in putting down his rebellion.
The CCC wrote:Seems that ldsfaq thinks that armed insurrection is permitted under the US constitution.
And what part of the Refuge event was "insurrection"??? Seems like you the liberal can't keep to reality and facts. They were protesting and occupying, wanting to have a discussion to redress grievences. That's American as Apple Pie.
And it's so facinating how you liberals find it so "evil"..... when you all do it all the time, just not generally the "armed" part. Only liberal blacks protesting have done the armed part. I don't recall any liberals otherwise ever doing it, other than the Civil War to maintain your Fascism against a race.
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Out in the real world most people aren't afraid of guns.....
Having guns does not justify Tryranny against citizens. There are SEVERAL FACTORS that must be involved for the situation to have required direct police intervention. There were ZERO of those factors.....
Remember, the purpose for police is public safety. Sure, they should be around, as they are standing watch at ANY public protesting, but the police in this instance made the protesters enemy's, instead of being simply there to keep the peace.
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They were protesting and occupying, wanting to have a discussion to redress grievences. That's American as Apple Pie.
Protesting, yes. Holding protest signs on a public sidewalk is usually legal. Trespassing and denial of access, no. That is breaking the law. And, it should be.
A redress of grievances is legal as long as it doesn't impinge on the rights of others. This silly occupation did and I thought that authority's were more than leanient in their reactions.
What was their cause in the first place? Defending arsonists that had already admitted their guilt and didn't want their help?
I don't think the occupiers were a very smart bunch. A silly hill to die on (literally).
This, or any other post that I have made or will make in the future, is strictly my own opinion and consequently of little or no value.
"Faith is believing something you know ain't true" Twain.
Sure they broke the law in the act of Protesting.... which is American as Apple Pie. Protesting has NEVER required "violent governmental force" unless it's a Fascist government (such as what historically has been done against blacks or other country's actions against people), or the Protesters are harming others such as the Whiskey Rebellion.
Liberals were not made "criminals" when they Illegally Occupied and did damage intentionally to the Wisconsin Capital Building or Federal Property, in contrast to the Bundy's who was simply doing maintenance adjustments to the Refuge property so vehicles could get through etc. (And FYI in case you don't get it, staying there overnight when it's supposed to be closed is ILLEGAL occupying, the Refuge is sometimes open also, so just because the Capital Building is sometimes open doesn't make it any less illegal for liberals to have occupied it).
Liberals were not made criminals when they've occupied other things illegally such as Occupy Wallstreet. The only differences between the Bundy's and liberals were the Bundy's were nicer about it and cleaner, they protested out in the middle of know-where so they didn't interfere with peoples lives as much as possible, and they were armed for self defense period.
Yet, in the liberal fascist mind, can't have conservatives protesting..... They must be shut down by the state!
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canpakes wrote:faqs, you still seem unable to tell us what these whiny traitors actually needed that drove them to the point of making idiots of themselves.
I've posted this several times.... stop ignoring things and you might learn something and will stop lying about what I do and don't do.
canpakes wrote:faqs, you still seem unable to tell us what these whiny traitors actually needed that drove them to the point of making idiots of themselves.
I've posted this several times.... stop ignoring things and you might learn something and will stop lying about what I do and don't do.