Contrasting Liberal Occupy vs. Conservative Occupy....

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I don't have the TIME or interest you dumbass....!

The videos explain WHY they did id and my position well on it. Why do you expect me to "re-invent the wheel"?
I study all sides, now you do it too for a change.

Now deal with the issues instead of the constant personal attacks.
If you don't want to deal with it, then shut up.
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ldsfaqs wrote:I don't have the TIME or interest you d***a**....!

Sure you do. You just typed about 5000 words of incoherent rambling in two or three other threads. You have nothing but time.

But, you apparently have no original thought, or the ability to express one.
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Keep up the personal attacks..... it's all you know how to do.

I should have mentioned "energy" also due to my health issues.
Nevertheless, I don't have the interest. Such has nothing to do with me having an original thought.
You are a truly ignorant person.

A person referring to others to say the things they agree with has ZERO to with them not having an "original thought".
It has to do with people "producing" things, a Thesis, an Article, etc. to the public rather than as I do simply absorbing information and with me also from ALL sources left, right, whatever. Just because I'm not "producing" things save these posts, doesn't mean I'm not "thinking" and studying all sources and making my own judgments from them.
I don't have the time, energy, or interest at the moment to do that.

Further, are you telling me when every one of YOU post links to articles, videos, etc. that YOU like, "you're" also not having an original thought?
I don't think so, so shut up with the personal attacks.

by the way, if I didn't think for myself, then I would be an Atheist or otherwise for example if a posted a video from some Conservative Atheist.
Or I wouldn't be able to disagree with some things said from such a person or otherwise like Alex Jones and his nut jobbery, even though him and his company addresses many important issues otherwise that don't have to do with his nut jobbery conspiracy's. If I didn't think for myself, then I wouldn't be able to condemn Bush or other conservatives when they say/do things wrong or I don't agree with.
So, you are truly a bigoted fool.
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ldsfaqs wrote:
You need to educate yourself by watching the various videos of them..... There are a few videos of Finicam who he was, what he was doing and believed such as this one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EWfGtQvyb4 He knew the Constitution far better than you.
They/he was not at all what you are claiming. In fact, the complete opposite.


Political Youtube videos = education in your mind?

You'll never see the fnords that way.

No wonder you don't know that you don't know.
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Which was the personal attack? Pointing out that your supposed low energy' fingertips have typed about 5000 rambling words in 2 or 3 other threads alone tonight, or pointing out that you seem to be unable to tell me what your (or the Bundy Bratz') grievances are that require armed occupation of wildlife reserves?
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Kittens_and_Jesus wrote:
ldsfaqs wrote:
You need to educate yourself by watching the various videos of them..... There are a few videos of Finicam who he was, what he was doing and believed such as this one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EWfGtQvyb4 He knew the Constitution far better than you.
They/he was not at all what you are claiming. In fact, the complete opposite.


Political Youtube videos = education in your mind?

You'll never see the fnords that way.

No wonder you don't know that you don't know.


If a person is studying all sides to issues, even on YouTube, it's certainly education.
Do you somehow think that education doesn't exist on YouTube?
Do you somehow think that experts, professors, educators, businessmen, etc. etc. don't post videos on YouTube?
Do you think videos uploaded that show the people, the words, the views, the actions etc. at the Oregon Refuge, in contrast to Liberal media and mainstream media short snippet cherry picking of statements, words, actions, etc. is somehow NOT education, but the Mainstream Media IS education?

YouTube is full of important information that you can't get or as well as anywhere else.
That's not to say information from other sources aren't important and useful also, they are. I study them ALL.
My posting YouTube videos is simply an efficient method to get the word out and facts about something, especially if it's the only place where you can find the information, especially in the depth YouTube does.

When was the last time you saw a 1 hour or 2 hour interview with a witness on Mainstream Media or in some article to where you can see ALL the information?
Never.... unless it's like a court transcript, police interview or videos.

I posted two videos of the two women witnesses to the Finicum shooting and stop. Where else are you going to get such full facts as that on the subject?
Nowhere....!

The Internet, including YouTube is the new digital age Library..... You condemn it at your own peril and profound ignorance, which is ironic since you think so highly of being educated or pursuing knowledge and education. Head in sand and condemning sources of information is not being educated.
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Maybe you can make a YouTube video that explains what your grievances are that would require armed occupation of a wildlife reserve. The Bundy Bratz couldn't. Care to take a shot (no pun intended, of course) at it?
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ldsfaqs wrote:
If a person is studying all sides to issues, even on YouTube, it's certainly education.
Do you somehow think that education doesn't exist on YouTube?
Do you somehow think that experts, professors, educators, businessmen, etc. etc. don't post videos on YouTube?
Do you think videos uploaded that show the people, the words, the views, the actions etc. at the Oregon Refuge, in contrast to Liberal media and mainstream media short snippet cherry picking of statements, words, actions, etc. is somehow NOT education, but the Mainstream Media IS education?

YouTube is full of important information that you can't get or as well as anywhere else.
That's not to say information from other sources aren't important and useful also, they are. I study them ALL.
My posting YouTube videos is simply an efficient method to get the word out and facts about something, especially if it's the only place where you can find the information, especially in the depth YouTube does.

When was the last time you saw a 1 hour or 2 hour interview with a witness on Mainstream Media or in some article to where you can see ALL the information?
Never.... unless it's like a court transcript, police interview or videos.

I posted two videos of the two women witnesses to the Finicum shooting and stop. Where else are you going to get such full facts as that on the subject?
Nowhere....!

The Internet, including YouTube is the new digital age Library..... You condemn it at your own peril and profound ignorance, which is ironic since you think so highly of being educated or pursuing knowledge and education. Head in sand and condemning sources of information is not being educated.



I learned how to play "Blackbird", "Never Going Back Again" and even a Bouree or two by Bach from Youtube.

It helped me pass College Algebra and Chemistry!

Why don't you watch two hours of Pewdiepie then? I mean, its Youtube, it must be good!

I don't condemn it, but that doesn't mean I'll eat it up as a news source.

Its a forum where any idiot can find an audience and any audience can find his idiot. Not too different from the BBS days or the days before.
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ldsfaqsless wrote:YouTube is full of important information that you can't get or as well as anywhere else.
That's not to say information from other sources aren't important and useful also, they are. I study them ALL.


Since you insist that you study them 'ALL,' what other sources do you study? Can you be specific? What peer reviewed journals do you regularly read? Do you read the Wall street journal daily? Do you read the Economist? What newspapers, journals, and magazines do you regularly read? What academic publications do you regularly follow? Why do you feel there is information on Youtube that is not available elsewhere?
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FBI finds trench of human feces at cultural site on Oregon refuge

The FBI said it has found a trench of human feces and a road excavated on or next to a sensitive cultural site with artifacts at the Oregon wildlife refuge where armed men staged a standoff with authorities, according to court records filed on Tuesday.

The filing came after the FBI on Friday said it was working with the Burns Paiute Tribe to identify damage to the tribe's artifacts and sacred burial grounds at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge during the six-week occupation.

Evidence teams began processing the crime scenes at the refuge on Saturday, two days after the final occupiers surrendered, and the process will last about three weeks, according to the document submitted in Oregon federal court on Tuesday.

U.S. Attorney Billy Williams of Oregon wrote in the filing that investigators found "significant amounts of human feces" in a trench at an outdoor camping area that was either on or next to a "sensitive cultural site."

"Occupiers appear to have excavated two large trenches and an improvised road on or adjacent to grounds containing sensitive artifacts," he wrote.

Williams also said in the filing - which was a response to occupiers' requests to have their attorneys allowed onto the site - that firearms and explosives were found, and it was feared vehicles and buildings could be booby trapped.

He said he would be willing to allow Bundy's legal team onto the site once authorities are finished processing it and before it is reopened to the public.

The takeover, which began on Jan. 2, was sparked by the return to prison of two Oregon ranchers convicted of setting fires that spread to federal property near the refuge.

It was led by brothers Ammon and Ryan Bundy, who were arrested in January along with other protesters on their way to speak at a community meeting in John Day, Oregon.

A spokesman for the group, Robert "LaVoy" Finicum, was shot dead during the stop.

The final four occupiers surrendered on Thursday with David Fry, 27, repeatedly threatening suicide in a dramatic final phone call with mediators before he gave up. All 12 people arrested in connection with the standoff will face charges of conspiracy to impede federal officers, according to the FBI.

The cost of the standoff will likely run into the millions of dollars, with local and state agencies looking to the federal government - and the arrested occupiers - to shoulder the bulk of the bills.


http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0VQ09S



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