Cliven Bundy Arrested

[_ajax18]

Someone on "my side"? What does that mean? Are you suggesting that people in prison for drugs are on my side, while people in prison for violent crimes are on your side?

Did Cliven Bundy shoot anyone?

No, your side includes violent offenders as well. People like Michael Brown and all the thugs who looted and burned Ferguson in response to him getting himself killed. People like Louis Head who demanded to burn down the city when Officer Wilson was acquitted. etc.

[_MissTish]

You guys are obviously forgetting that one time a Lefty McLefterson aimed a sniper rifle at law enforcement with impunity.

(There's a "I Support Planned Parenthood" sticker underneath that bargain bin body armor. Promise.)

I'm enjoying the irony that all these people will never be able to own a gun again because they will all be convicted felons.

[_Analytics]

Someone on "my side"? What does that mean? Are you suggesting that people in prison for drugs are on my side, while people in prison for violent crimes are on your side?

Did Cliven Bundy shoot anyone?

No, your side includes violent offenders as well. People like Michael Brown and all the thugs who looted and burned Ferguson in response to him getting himself killed. People like Louis Head who demanded to burn down the city when Officer Wilson was acquitted. etc.

Michael Brown is on "my side"? Every single person on "my side" think he was a thief that should have been arrested, convicted, and sent to jail. Just because we don't think an unarmed petty-thief should be executed by a cop on the street doesn't mean we don't think he should be punished for his crimes.

Louis Head screamed "burn these bitches down" before a riot, but then later apologized. He said, "I was so angry and full of raw emotions, as so many others were, and granted, I screamed out words that I shouldn't have screamed in the heat of the moment."

Yelling something in the heat of the moment that you later regret is very different than systematically stealing from the federal government for decades.

People on my side are in favor of peaceful protests when there is social injustice. Riots are not peaceful protests. When there are riots, we don't take up arms against the cops to protect the rioters. Rioters are NOT our allies. We WANT them to be arrested and punished.

[_ajax18]

Michael Brown is on "my side"? Every single person on "my side" think he was a thief that should have been arrested

Every single person on your side was simply angry that the video proving he was a thief was released to the public.

Just because we don't think an unarmed petty-thief should be executed by a cop on the street doesn't mean we don't think he should be punished for his crimes.

Hands up don't shoot was a proven lie.

Analytics how do you feel about people that sell illegal drugs in a school zone? Is that a nonviolent crime that people shouldn't be put in jail for as well?

Is chanting "Pigs in a blanket, fry them like bacon," peaceful protest?

What about employers paying people under the table to get out of paying taxes? Is that stealing from the government? It's non violent crime. Should they go to jail? No because in your world congressmen and liberal elites who do these kind of things are humanitarians for giving a job to either poor Americans scamming a disability check on the side or illegal immigrants who shouldn't even be in the country in the first place.

[_Analytics]

Michael Brown is on "my side"? Every single person on "my side" think he was a thief that should have been arrested

Every single person on your side was simply angry that the video proving he was a thief was released to the public.

I have absolutely no problem with thieves getting caught. People who are angry that thieves get caught are not on my side. None of them.

Analytics how do you feel about people that sell illegal drugs in a school zone? Is that a nonviolent crime that people shouldn't be put in jail for as well?

I feel very bad about such people. Sure, put them in jail. I've never cried over a drug dealer being put in jail--especially ones that sell drugs in school zones. Such people are not on "my side." However, putting them in prison costs between $30k per year and $60k per year. I'm not in favor of spending my taxes to put such people into prison with insanely long minimum sentences.

Is chanting "Pigs in a blanket, fry them like bacon," peaceful protest?

No. Nobody on my side chants that.

What about employers paying people under the table to get out of paying taxes? Is that stealing from the government?

Yes.

It's non violent crime. Should they go to jail?

No. I'd rather collect the back-taxes and a fine from such people than pay $30,000 to $60,000 a year to house them in a jail.

[_The CCC]

Michael Brown is on "my side"? Every single person on "my side" think he was a thief that should have been arrested

Every single person on your side was simply angry that the video proving he was a thief was released to the public.

Just because we don't think an unarmed petty-thief should be executed by a cop on the street doesn't mean we don't think he should be punished for his crimes.

Hands up don't shoot was a proven lie.

Analytics how do you feel about people that sell illegal drugs in a school zone? Is that a nonviolent crime that people shouldn't be put in jail for as well?

Is chanting "Pigs in a blanket, fry them like bacon," peaceful protest?

What about employers paying people under the table to get out of paying taxes? Is that stealing from the government? It's non violent crime. Should they go to jail? No because in your world congressmen and liberal elites who do these kind of things are humanitarians for giving a job to either poor Americans scamming a disability check on the side or illegal immigrants who shouldn't even be in the country in the first place.

Michael Brown was unarmed.

Yes they should.

Disgusting yes, but still peaceful.

Yes it is. Yes they should go to jail.

The number of incidences of poor people scamming disability payments is rarer than hen's teeth. But still illegal and they should be put in jail

Illegal aliens operate under the table, and outside the law. So do their employers. Which is better to bring them out into the open and help them become resident aliens and/or citizens under the protection of law, or have another "Operation Wetback"?

[_ajax18]

The number of incidences of poor people scamming disability payments is rarer than hen's teeth

How do you know? Do people admit on census paperwork that they collect disability and work jobs under the table for extra money? I think catching these people is as rare as hens teeth, which goes back to my original complaint about the Department of Justice being a partisan political rather than impartial organization when enforcing the law.

Illegal aliens operate under the table, and outside the law. So do their employers. Which is better to bring them out into the open and help them become resident aliens and/or citizens under the protection of law, or have another "Operation Wetback"?

It's a false dichotomy if you can't/won't secure the border. It's a question of sovereignty. And no we shouldn't be rewarding people who ignore American law with residency and citizenship, much less overlooking the crime committed by the employers who hired them. Immigration law should be determined by Congress, not a partisan executive order. Just admit that you only believe in enforcing the laws you agree with.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Uh. Michael Brown got what he deserved. And I'm probably a raging Liberal by anyone's standards these days.

Don't be an asshole, Ajax.

- Doc

[_ajax18]

Uh. Michael Brown got what he deserved. And I'm probably a raging Liberal by anyone's standards these days.

Don't be an asshole, Ajax.

- Doc

I wonder if Beastie would agree that you're a raging liberal. You seemed level headed enough to me at one time. What happened to you?

[_The CCC]

The number of incidences of poor people scamming disability payments is rarer than hen's teeth

How do you know? Do people admit on census paperwork that they collect disability and work jobs under the table for extra money? I think catching these people is as rare as hens teeth, which goes back to my original complaint about the Department of Justice being a partisan political rather than impartial organization when enforcing the law.

Illegal aliens operate under the table, and outside the law. So do their employers. Which is better to bring them out into the open and help them become resident aliens and/or citizens under the protection of law, or have another "Operation Wetback"?

It's a false dichotomy if you can't/won't secure the border. It's a question of sovereignty. And no we shouldn't be rewarding people who ignore American law with residency and citizenship, much less overlooking the crime committed by the employers who hired them. Immigration law should be determined by Congress, not a partisan executive order. Just admit that you only believe in enforcing the laws you agree with.

There has been a zero to net negative border immigration along our southern border for years now.
SEE http://www.pewhispanic.org/2012/04/23/n ... haps-less/

Agreed we shouldn't. We should have a sensible immigration policy that encourages people to immigrate to this country legally, to become US citizens, to be equal under our laws, to live long and proper. But there is money to be made by unscrupulous employers that abuse their employees to make an extra penny or two for that low priced shirt, and those low priced Blueberries.

The Republican held Congress refuses to act. It is a deliberately partisan play by the Republicans to deny President Obama ANY victories. Even if it costs you personally a small fortune, and the American people a very big one.

You are wrong. I believe in enforcing all laws to the furthest extent of the law. I also believe that some laws need to be changed or gotten rid of by peaceable assembly and petitioning the government for a redress of grievances. I don't believe in forming Confederacies to overthrow the government by force of arms.