Dinesh D'Souza vs. Bill Ayers..... Debate American Exception

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Dinesh D'Souza vs. Bill Ayers..... Debate American Exception

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWxCxMy-_s0

A small snippet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpSXLqikT9I

Meh, I could have used a better response there by D'Souza in the snippet. He could have said that he and his wife contributed $10,000 to Long's campaign. He then directed associates to contribute on behalf of themselves and their spouses, totaling $20,000. D'Souza was to reimburse them.

Federal election law limits individual campaign contributions to a federal candidate to $2,500 each for a primary and general election campaign. The law also bars any person from making contributions in the name of others or reimbursing another person's contribution.

Now.... Ayers try's to make what D'Souza did so "evil". Well first, it was a drop in the bucket. Second, he didn't try to tamper with witnesses or anything else illegal, he admitted what he did. Third, it's an utterly stupid law..... I mean give me a break, it should be entirely unconstitutional to "limit" what a person can donate to a campaign, especially that "tiny" amount. It's just stupid. I could maybe understand some sort of "huge" amounts like a million or really more, not sure what the limit should be in that situation, but it should be debated.

D'Souza was clearly gone after by the Obama Admin. And it's also utterly stupid to compare what he did with what Bill Ayers did. Bill Ayers should still be in jail for what he did. Instead he's destroying America in the Education system.
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ldsfaqs wrote:Third, it's an utterly stupid law..... I mean give me a break, it should be entirely unconstitutional to "limit" what a person can donate to a campaign, especially that "tiny" amount. It's just stupid. I could maybe understand some sort of "huge" amounts like a million or really more, not sure what the limit should be in that situation

You have no understanding whatsoever of the history of law related to campaign finance, do you? Go do some legitimate research.
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Lemmie wrote:
ldsfaqs wrote:Third, it's an utterly stupid law..... I mean give me a break, it should be entirely unconstitutional to "limit" what a person can donate to a campaign, especially that "tiny" amount. It's just stupid. I could maybe understand some sort of "huge" amounts like a million or really more, not sure what the limit should be in that situation

You have no understanding whatsoever of the history of law related to campaign finance, do you? Go do some legitimate research.


Say something useful for a change.... I entirely know the history. I'm just saying it's stupid to be that low.
Further, where does corruption actually most occur? Not there. Because once people are in office they do whatever they want and are willing to do.
It's the "after" being elected is where almost all corruption occurs.

Of course, there are ways to solve corruption related to money and government.
I think Government should simply make a law that when "pre-final" candidates are known, that the media is required to give all candidates media time, so they can get out their messages etc. Very little money would then be needed to actually run for office.

Also, term limits should be put in place for all government positions. People can come back after they've reached the limit, but they must give someone else a chance, like candidates can only come back after one or two terms have passed since last serving.

These alone would reduce corruption a lot.
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faxless wrote:I think Government should simply make a law that when "pre-final" candidates are known, that the media is required to give all candidates media time, so they can get out their messages etc. Very little money would then be needed to actually run for office.

So media corporations should be forced to donate air time? Why? How is that fair?

Why "pre-final"? Why did you use quotation marks around that phrase? When you use quotation marks like that, it looks like you are clumsily attempting irony, meaning you intend the opposite. What is the opposite of pre-final? Why do you think that very little money is needed after media time for pre-finals?
faxless wrote:I entirely know the history. I'm just saying it's stupid to be that low.

Three year olds have opinions like that. Then they grow up. Why don't you look into why the individual limit is set there? Learn some history, your opinion below shows you clearly have no clue.

faxless wrote:...it should be entirely unconstitutional to "limit" what a person can donate to a campaign, especially that "tiny" amount. It's just stupid. I could maybe understand some sort of "huge" amounts like a million or really more, not sure what the limit should be in that situation...

(Again with the misuse of quotes in a sentence. Study grammar.)
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ldsfaqs wrote:
D'Souza was clearly gone after by the Obama Admin. And it's also utterly stupid to compare what he did with what Bill Ayers did. Bill Ayers should still be in jail for what he did. Instead he's destroying America in the Education system.


I think both of these guys are disgusting extremists. Don't see why I should take an interest in their BS let alone watch them fling it at each other.
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Bill Ayers should still be in jail for what he did. Instead he's destroying America in the Education system.[/quote]

Bill Ayers paid to the fullest extent of the law.

SEE https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ayers

Although the bomb that rocked the Pentagon was itsy-bitsy—weighing close to two pounds—it caused 'tens of thousands of dollars' of damage. The operation cost under $500, and no one was killed or even hurt.[19]

After the bombing Ayers became a fugitive. During this time Ayers and fellow member Bernardine Dohrn married, and the two remained fugitives together, changing identities, jobs and locations.

In 1973 new information came to light about FBI operations targeted against Weather Underground and the New Left, all part of a series of covert and often illegal FBI projects called COINTEL.[20] Due to the illegal tactics of FBI agents involved with the program, including conducting wiretaps and property searches without warrants, government attorneys requested all weapons-related and bomb-related charges be dropped against the Weather Underground, including charges against Ayers.[21][22]
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