The Real Sexism Project.... www.realsexism.com

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That's how the liberal elites do it. You win elections with talk about compassion and helping the poor. Then you tax the living hell out of those of us working to live month to month while you retire at 44.

Has it ever occurred to you that thinking in stereotypes might be affecting your ability to accurately assess reality?

It sounds like I'm not the only one on this board who would likely see a significant tax increase if Bernie is elected (assuming he gets what he wants), and will gladly vote for him. That's because I (and I assume others) realize that when you raise the water, everyone's boat goes up. It's pretty remarkable to me that I have to convince religious people we should have compassion for the poor.
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It's pretty remarkable to me that I have to convince religious people we should have compassion for the poor.


What's compassionate about giving away other peoples money?
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ajax18 wrote:That's how the liberal elites do it. You win elections with talk about compassion and helping the poor. Then you tax the living hell out of those of us working to live month to month while you retire at 44.



Hold on just a New York minute, there ajax18. I didn't realize that the above comment was directed to Cam. You've made similar snide comments to me as well.

Listen up, you sniveling whiner, Cam retired from the effing military, just like we did. Do you have any idea at all what that means? It means you move around the globe for 20+ years. It means you don't live near your extended family. It means that every damned move costs you out of pocket for incidentals. It means that you're furniture and appliances get knocked around, lost/stolen in moving vans. It means you ship cars overseas, sometimes at your own expense depending on your rank, or you drive a beater around Europe for 2-3 damned years. It means that you rack up the mileage on your POV driving to your next duty station.

It means you live in countries that you aren't able to communicate with the locals. It means that you do without all the creature comforts that you have here in the U.S. It means you shop in damned commissaries that run out of crap. When we were in Germany they ran out of turkeys in November while you were stateside hogging down your dinner.

It used to mean that you had to write letters back and forth overseas and get up in the middle of damned night to talk to your mother at a MARS station or write letters via APO that took weeks to make the trip over. It means you hardly ever see your relatives unless you're passing through on the way to the next duty station or you got the call in the middle of the night that your parent died. It means that your kids don't have the same friends for more than a couple of years and neither do you, because their family PCS's to a new duty station.

It means you either live in base housing where they jerk you around the whole time or when you clear quarters, or you live in the surrounding area and hope to god that your sponsor was being honest with you when they said you chose a safe neighborhood. It means you rent or buy a home hoping to god you can sell it before you PCS again or you go rental for years on end, knowing that what you live in doesn't belong to you.

It means that your spouse goes Civil Service or pounds salt trying to get a job every time you move, regardless of what career plans they had in mind for themselves.

It means that the service member goes on deployment or remote tours while the spouse rows the boat at home no matter what happens---birth-death-illness, that your family doesn't know where in the hell you are and cannot communicate with you, they watch the news reports when there is conflict hoping to find out something/anything about your whereabouts and sometimes it means that you become the next blue bark shipment and arrive back home in a flag draped coffin.

It means that for many, you go in strong as an ox and leave with service connected conditions and diseases that transform into disabilities that will never resolve. I happen to live with a veteran of the USAF who chose to use his GI Bill benefits on schooling for a second career when he separated from the military, whose service connected conditions and diseases eventually did just what I stated above.

His home is straight up paid for. He cash flowed both his kids through college. Paid for weddings in cash. He doesn't owe anyone a damn dime. He is 100% disabled and you, with your alleged 6 figure income and constant bitching, aren't fit to shine his damned shoes.

Did I just rant that out? Yeah, and I'm posting it, too.
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It sounds like I'm not the only one on this board who would likely see a significant tax increase if Bernie is elected


For someone making $100k/year, how much does Bernie want to raise their income taxes? What percent of people making $100k/year can retire at 45?
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He is 100% disabled and you, with your alleged 6 figure income and constant bitching, aren't fit to shine his f*****g shoes.


I didn't realize he was military. Good luck getting any funding once the Democrats are in control. You'll be no better off than any other schmuck on disability. I feel better now.
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ajax18 wrote:
He is 100% disabled and you, with your alleged 6 figure income and constant bitching, aren't fit to shine his f*****g shoes.


I didn't realize he was military. Good luck getting any funding once the Democrats are in control. You'll be no better off than any other schmuck on disability. I feel better now.

What an ass.
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ajax18 wrote:I didn't realize he was military. Good luck getting any funding once the Democrats are in control. You'll be no better off than any other schmuck on disability. I feel better now.

Democrats have consistently advocated for increased funding for Veterans' benefits while Republicans have consistently opposed their efforts. That you think it the opposite suggests that you can't think beyond simple-minded associations and slogans.
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ajax18 wrote:
He is 100% disabled and you, with your alleged 6 figure income and constant bitching, aren't fit to shine his f*****g shoes.


I didn't realize he was military. Good luck getting any funding once the Democrats are in control. You'll be no better off than any other schmuck on disability. I feel better now.


Did you say schmuck? You whiney little bitch, do you really make a 6 figure income? If you're bucks down and in hock up to your ass, that's nobody's fault but your own. Get this, you can't have every shiny little object that you lay your eyes on. If you made poor business and financial decisions, that bears strong testimony to your massive stupidity.

So far as I am concerned, people like Cam and my husband paid their dues and some of yours as well. That they did well for themselves is a statement on what kind of human beings they are.

And you? Misery loves company right?
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Jersey Girl wrote:So far as I am concerned, people like Cam and my husband paid their dues and some of yours as well. That they did well for themselves is a statement on what kind of human beings they are.


Jersey Girl,

I think in your rant you summarized life in the military pretty well. I could go on and on about the impact it has on interpersonal relationships, not being there when my brother was paralyzed in a motorcycle accident, not being there when my mother died, fighting a custody battle for my daughters from Korea and then North Carolina when they lived in Utah, missing various birthdays and holidays, so and so forth... I can talk about 20-hour/7-day-a-week work cycles in Iraq. I can talk about going outside the wire, or taking mortars. I can talk about freezing night ops and blistering heat day ops. I can talk about the dozens of times I was brutalized by others during training ops, or about how fun SERE school wasn't. I can talk about the 0600 pt whether you wanted to do it or not. But I chose it. It's all good. The government incentivized me to stay, and I did (as did your husband). The military made a deal with me that if I was willing to do x-y-z it was willing to do x-y-z. And I agreed to it*. You better believe I feel I earned what the military promised in exchange for my time, energy, and body.

I feel good about the career, and the things I've done so I don't really care what someone like Ajax thinks. The funny thing is if I were a raging Conservative he'd probably be very supportive of my retirement. Interesting how that works. Also, what he doesn't understand there are a lot people, inside and outside the military, who reach "retirement age" but can't do it because of the choices they made. For us military types, unless you plan ahead you simply can't get by on your basic retirement income (especially after taxes and insurance). Just like anyone else you have to be a savvy saver and investor.

That said, I want this on record, I personally believe the ER nurses, the doctors, the first responders... The people who really put themselves on the line here in America are the ones worthy of our respect. Day in and day they go through the grind. It's a tough go for them. Quick story:

So a long time ago I went on a ride-along with the Las Vegas Metro PD. Within the span of just one night I was witness to a man holding a butcher's knife to his wife's throat, various strippers passed out and waiting for pick-up (or fighting), robberies, and other assorted issues. I was shocked. I asked our officers if this was typical and they said yes. They dealt and deal with this sort of nonsense every-single-night. I asked them why they did it. And they said they loved their job, and felt they were giving back in a way.

And that's why I did what I did. It was a good deal on many levels, and it felt good to feel like your time spent was part of something greater than yourself rather than working hard just to buy stuff. Ugh. No thanks.

So. My hats off to those LVMPD officers.

- Doc

* The only time I really question my career path is when it comes to architecture. To build something that lasts, that has your thumbprints all over it, I think is pretty special. That would be my only regret, to not have pursued that course. BUT... There's still time. :)
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Doc -

It's hard to imagine that at least one person who frequents this board will read your post, as he has so many others, yet still claim to have experienced more of life and it's challenges than everyone else. But it will happen.

Thank you for your service to this country. (Jersey Girl, that goes for you and JB as well...)

And, you're correct - it's never too late to pursue that architecture degree. : )
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