Blixa wrote: Finicum's absurd statement---"Let’s make sure that we take care of the heritage of the Native American people"--aside, notice that the Freeloaders are still not making any connection between Native Americans and the land in question: "Ammon Bundy continues to ignore the Burns Paiute tribe’s connection to land which was never ceded in any treaty to the United States. In custody since January 26, he released a statement on Friday through his lawyer saying, “This land belongs to the people. We must get our government in control and back to benefiting the people.”
This.
These whiners are as myopic and self-serving as they come, and with no mind for any historical realities.
They did what they did in the middle of know wherenowhere , where there was nothing, and simply because there might be a few "arrowheads" in a particular spot then you all feel you need to LIE and misrepresent what they actually did, as if they harmed some great historical site, just because some artifacts might be in the area.
Truly gullible you people are.... in attributing things and not seeing how they word things that gives a false impression. If you all actually went there, you would see it's all a bunch of lying crap that you are falling for.
I'm sorry faqs, but your ignorance is bleeding all over this thread. Every historical site is precious. Every artifact is irreplaceable. Artifacts that are removed or disturbed can no longer tell us their story. Beyond that, Native American burial sites are sacred to their religion.
Try to have some understanding and empathy for people in general. Not just the ignorant rednecks you feel some kinship with.
This, or any other post that I have made or will make in the future, is strictly my own opinion and consequently of little or no value.
"Faith is believing something you know ain't true" Twain.
- Whenever a poet or preacher, chief or wizard spouts gibberish, the human race spends centuries deciphering the message. - Umberto Eco - To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin. - Cardinal Bellarmine at the trial of Galilei
I'm not ignorant, you people are for just believing what's said and not actually reading between the lines in those articles and claims, seeing how there is no actual "facts" at all, just charges, claims, may, near this or that, etc.. It's just liberals lying like usual.
This is the actual truth for example....
LaVoy Finicum trying to Save Native American Artifacts
They did what they did in the middle of know where, where there was nothing, and simply because there might be a few "arrowheads" in a particular spot then you all feel you need to LIE and misrepresent what they actually did, as if they harmed some great historical site, just because some artifacts might be in the area.
Truly gullible you people are.... in attributing things and not seeing how they word things that gives a false impression. If you all actually went there, you would see it's all a bunch of lying crap that you are falling for.
I don't know how you could even bring yourself to write the above. I really don't.
Did you read the material that Blixa quoted? All of it?
Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.
Chinese Proverb
ldsfaqs wrote:I'm not ignorant, you people are for just believing what's said and not actually reading between the lines in those articles and claims, seeing how there is no actual "facts" at all, just charges, claims, may, near this or that, etc.. It's just liberals lying like usual.
This is the actual truth for example....
LaVoy Finicum trying to Save Native American Artifacts
The refuge was once part of the 1.8 million acre Malheur Indian reservation which belonged to several Northern Paiute bands including the nearby Burns Paiute tribe.The buildings the militants occupied demanding the “return” of federal lands to ranchers, miners and loggers contained over 4,000 artifacts and maps of graves and other culturally significant sites on the refuge.
Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.
Chinese Proverb
They did what they did in the middle of know wherenowhere , where there was nothing, and simply because there might be a few "arrowheads" in a particular spot then you all feel you need to LIE and misrepresent what they actually did, as if they harmed some great historical site, just because some artifacts might be in the area.
Truly gullible you people are.... in attributing things and not seeing how they word things that gives a false impression. If you all actually went there, you would see it's all a bunch of lying crap that you are falling for.
I'm sorry faqs, but your ignorance is bleeding all over this thread. Every historical site is precious. Every artifact is irreplaceable. Artifacts that are removed or disturbed can no longer tell us their story. Beyond that, Native American burial sites are sacred to their religion.
Try to have some understanding and empathy for people in general. Not just the ignorant rednecks you feel some kinship with.
Agree. Those remarks were really unfortunate.
Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.
Chinese Proverb
ldsfaqs wrote:I'm not ignorant, you people are for just believing what's said and not actually reading between the lines in those articles and claims, seeing how there is no actual "facts" at all, just charges, claims, may, near this or that, etc.. It's just liberals lying like usual.
This is the actual truth for example....
LaVoy Finicum trying to Save Native American Artifacts
Did you read Blixa's post? It contains the tribe members' response to the very video you posted above. It as been posted for you multiple times! why do you refuse to learn anything? Read!
Blixa wrote:And this article talks about the ignorant arrogance of LaVoy Finicum and others rifling through Native American artifact archives:
"The militiamen stationed at a federal wildlife refuge in eastern Oregon are now rummaging through artifacts and documents of the Paiute tribe, sparking outrage among local Native Americans whose ancestors originally occupied the land.
LaVoy Finicum, one of the leaders of the armed protesters occupying the Malheur national wildlife refuge, posted a video of himself inside a government building looking through cardboard boxes of papers and other items associated with the local tribe – and inviting Paiute leaders to meet with the militia and reclaim their belongings.
“We want to make sure these things are returned to their rightful owner,” said Finicum, who recently helped destroy a US Fish and Wildlife Service fence and remove cameras that he claimed the government was using for surveillance. ...
“I feel disrespected that they’re even out there,” said Jarvis Kennedy, the tribal council’s sergeant-at-arms. Kennedy said he was too upset to watch all of Finicum’s video. “It’s like me going through their drawers at their house.”
Tribe leaders and federal officials say the refuge stores confidential documents and thousands of historic artifacts, such as baskets, spears, tools and beads. The refuge is also home to Paiute burial grounds, making the militia’s recent decision to pave a road through the refuge particularly alarming.
“I could go to the Bundys where his grandparents are buried,” Kennedy said. “How would they feel if I drove over their grave and went through their heirlooms?”
In his video, Finicum said that he was showing how the wildlife refuge has done a poor job maintaining the artifacts and keeping storage rooms clean. “This needs to be taken care of, and so we’re reaching out to the Paiute people in the sincerest manner as we can,” he said on camera. “Let’s make sure that we take care of the heritage of the Native American people.”
Added militia member Blaine Cooper: “The rightful owners need to come back and claim their belongings.”
But Kennedy said the tribe has a good relationship with refuge officials and noted that the Paiute people refuse to communicate with militia leaders or visit the occupation.
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