Sanders is the Worst Presidential Candidate in History

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Re: Sanders is the Worst Presidential Candidate in History

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ajax18 wrote:
In comparison to Clinton? Why would that be surprising?


Why does Clinton beat Sanders with blacks and Hispanics?


because the corporate media Univision favors Clinton! and most Hispanics don't know who Sanders is, and Hillary is seen as the anti-Trump candidate.
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ajax18 wrote:
In comparison to Clinton? Why would that be surprising?


Why does Clinton beat Sanders with blacks and Hispanics?

You're the one who is surprised by that fact. Go ahead and explain why it is surprising that Clinton is preferred to Sanders among minorities.
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You're the one who is surprised by that fact. Go ahead and explain why it is surprising that Clinton is preferred to Sanders among minorities.


No, I honestly don't know. I just wondered if you, the great oracle, would care to enlighten us.
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ajax18 wrote:I didn't think we'd ever have a worse President than Obama.


I always hear this from the extreme right, but they never give any objective reasons why. All I can see is hatred of Democrats and for many racism.
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Themis wrote:
ajax18 wrote:I didn't think we'd ever have a worse President than Obama.

I always hear this from the extreme right, but they never give any objective reasons why.

That's because their hate is irrational.

Obama's presidency has been a mixed bag, and he's disappointed me in several areas, but he's never given me a reason to hate him so emphatically. I still like him, despite my disappointments. It seems to me that "Thou shalt hate Obama" is one of the 10 Commandments in the current wing nut GOP religion. It has nothing to do with reality of Obama, just the reality of racism.
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Will Sanders play George McGovern to the remaining Republican candidates Barry Goldwater?
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It has nothing to do with reality of Obama, just the reality of racism.


It's racism Schmo. If Obama were white the right would love him.

You call me a troll but your words are far more offensive to darn near any Republican. Why does that double standard fly? You practically can't speak without dropping the f bomb. You call us idiots and racists, yet I'm the troll because I think Obama is quite possibly the worst president ever.
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ajax18 wrote:
It has nothing to do with reality of Obama, just the reality of racism.


It's racism Schmo. If Obama were white the right would love him.

Since we only have history to work with, it seems to me that although they wouldn't love him, they certainly wouldn't default to "worst president ever!"

ajax18 wrote:You call me a troll but your words are far more offensive to darn near any Republican.

Good. The current GOP is an offense to any thinking person. They get what they deserve.

ajax18 wrote:Why does that double standard fly? You practically can't speak without dropping the f bomb. You call us idiots and racists, yet I'm the troll because I think Obama is quite possibly the worst president ever.

If you want to be taken seriously, make a serious case why he's the worst president in history. Failing that, you're just a racist damned troll when you say "worst president ever!" especially given the screwup Obama replaced.
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ajax18 wrote:
It has nothing to do with reality of Obama, just the reality of racism.


It's racism Schmo. If Obama were white the right would love him.

You call me a troll but your words are far more offensive to darn near any Republican. Why does that double standard fly? You practically can't speak without dropping the f bomb. You call us idiots and racists, yet I'm the troll because I think Obama is quite possibly the worst president ever.

Racism almost certainly plays a component in the extreme antipathy that Obama enjoys on the right. That doesn't mean it reduces into something as simple as dislike of Obama = racism, but the fervor and depth of dislike is influenced by racism and there is good data backing that up. Hell, racial dog-whistles abound in right-wing media towards Obama for a reason.

Obama borders on being a moderate Republican president. Can you explain why he's the worst president in the history of history? I dislike Obama a great deal, but my dislike of Obama is grounded in a type of radicalism on civil rights and foreign policy Republicans generally favor. George with. Bush is his closest match on those issues. He hasn't been extreme on anything you purport to care about and analogs can be readily found in other administrations, some of which are Republican. One would think your dislike wouldn't be so intense if it was policy driven.
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He hasn't been extreme on anything you purport to care about


He's the product of tutoring from Saul Alinsky, Bernadine Dorn, Bill Ayers, and Jeremiah Wright. His spending and debt has been extreme. His illegal unconstitutional executive amnesty was extreme. I'm just glad this is the last year of Obama.
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