Instant Karma - Gun Rights Advocate Shot by Son

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Re: Instant Karma - Gun Rights Advocate Shot by Son

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ldsfaqs wrote:See above idiot.... Safety is for the morally, intellectually and physically lazy.
If you want total safety.... then stop living. For every family member shot there's at least 5-10 times more crimes stopped because a gun was used in some form, shown, fired, or otherwise.
I'm sure the some Billions of innocents killed by Mao, Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, and many others had "wished" they had a gun.
For every Construction death, there's hundreds of homes and buildings built.
For every Sports death, there's hundreds of games.
For every Knife death or finger cut off there's hundreds of safe uses.

Come to reality and truth for a change.


Almost two-thirds of the people in the U.S. population live in homes without guns, and there is no evidence that the inhabitants of these homes are at greater risk of being robbed, injured or killed by criminals compared with citizens in homes with guns. Instead, the evidence is overwhelming that a gun in the home increases the likelihood not only that a household member will be shot accidentally, but also that someone in the home will die in a suicide or homicide.

In addition, hundreds of thousands of household guns are stolen each year. Gun theft is a main pathway by which guns end up in criminal hands. The public health costs of gun ownership are very high.


~David Hemenway
professor at the Harvard School of Public Health and director of the Harvard Injury Control Research Center

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la ... story.html
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Re: Instant Karma - Gun Rights Advocate Shot by Son

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Analytics wrote:
ldsfaqs wrote:See above idiot.... Safety is for the morally, intellectually and physically lazy.
If you want total safety.... then stop living. For every family member shot there's at least 5-10 times more crimes stopped because a gun was used in some form, shown, fired, or otherwise.
I'm sure the some Billions of innocents killed by Mao, Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, and many others had "wished" they had a gun.
For every Construction death, there's hundreds of homes and buildings built.
For every Sports death, there's hundreds of games.
For every Knife death or finger cut off there's hundreds of safe uses.

Come to reality and truth for a change.


Almost two-thirds of the people in the U.S. population live in homes without guns, and there is no evidence that the inhabitants of these homes are at greater risk of being robbed, injured or killed by criminals compared with citizens in homes with guns. Instead, the evidence is overwhelming that a gun in the home increases the likelihood not only that a household member will be shot accidentally, but also that someone in the home will die in a suicide or homicide.

In addition, hundreds of thousands of household guns are stolen each year. Gun theft is a main pathway by which guns end up in criminal hands. The public health costs of gun ownership are very high.


~David Hemenway
professor at the Harvard School of Public Health and director of the Harvard Injury Control Research Center

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la ... story.html


Half truth is not the same thing as actual truth..... You should learn the difference.

Again, you having something else in the home such as a hammer or a knife, or having or doing anything else "increases the likelihood" that you'll die from that thing or doing a thing.

Is this fallacy day?
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Re: Instant Karma - Gun Rights Advocate Shot by Son

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Is this fallacy day?

It is if you're going to try to convince us that this woman's son had an equal chance of hammering or knifing her in the back while she was driving.
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I'm shocked, I tell you... shocked!

faqs is missing the point!?

Well I'll be hog tied and dipped in butter.
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canpakes wrote:
Is this fallacy day?

It is if you're going to try to convince us that this woman's son had an equal chance of hammering or knifing her in the back while she was driving.

Just the other day, while my 4-year-old was "helping" me in the garage (he has his own little toolbox of cheap tools from Harbor Freight), he accidently got my finger with the pliers. It made me realize I would have been much safer if he had a gun instead.
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ldsfaqs wrote:
Analytics wrote:Almost two-thirds of the people in the U.S. population live in homes without guns, and there is no evidence that the inhabitants of these homes are at greater risk of being robbed, injured or killed by criminals compared with citizens in homes with guns. Instead, the evidence is overwhelming that a gun in the home increases the likelihood not only that a household member will be shot accidentally, but also that someone in the home will die in a suicide or homicide.

In addition, hundreds of thousands of household guns are stolen each year. Gun theft is a main pathway by which guns end up in criminal hands. The public health costs of gun ownership are very high.


~David Hemenway
professor at the Harvard School of Public Health and director of the Harvard Injury Control Research Center

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la ... story.html


Half truth is not the same thing as actual truth..... You should learn the difference.

Again, you having something else in the home such as a hammer or a knife, or having or doing anything else "increases the likelihood" that you'll die from that thing or doing a thing.

Is this fallacy day?


I see no fallacy or half truths. He is defending his original statement which is correct. Your statement backs him up by saying yes people who have others tools and such are at greater odds of being injured or killed by them. The more I drive my car the more likely I can will get into an accident. That doesn't mean I will stop driving. I think his point is that having guns for protection is not true because having guns makes you less safe compared to the risk of being attacked by other people. Obviously not all people face the same risk, but I don't think most understand their real risk when they decide to get a gun for protection. Analytics demonstrated some facts to show that people are safer without guns in the household then with guns. Events having a person actually save themselves with a gun are much rarer then people's guns killing them from accidents and suicides. In addition many of the guns get stolen and find there way into criminals hands.

These are just the facts, even if we don't like them faqs. I don't think it means we should ban all guns, but we should make sure we have plenty of rules to make people safer. Guns are very dangerous, and are meant to be. They are meant for killing of animals including the human animal. I would want to know why the gun was available for the child to get a hold of. in my opinion handguns should be required by law to be in locked cases separate from ammunition both at home and in transit. There are ways of doing so that will allow a person to quickly access the gun and ammo in those really really rare instances they may be needed, but most may not understand real situations and should be left to professionals like the police.
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ldsfaqs wrote:I have no idea why this well educated woman did something so stupid, but as YOU ALL KNOW very well, no matter how much you prepare and try to do what's smart and right, ACCIDENTS STILL HAPPEN. It's called being human.
So, mock all you want about Karma and Darwin, but guess what, it's called LIFE...!

Fools.


What a breath of fresh air it is to see you advocating for the safe transport of children and responsible gun ownership!

No wait...
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Why did the kid shoot his mom in the back? Is he too cowardly to face her?
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Re: Instant Karma - Gun Rights Advocate Shot by Son

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DarkHelmet wrote:Why did the kid shoot his mom in the back? Is he too cowardly to face her?

Apparently, according to dashboard recording, the words heard just before the gunshot were, "...when I say chocolate milk, I mean chocolate milk..."
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