Released inside Finicum Truck Video proves intended killing.

[Guest]

Some commentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1fnPoMLCxo

Actual full video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWLHiU8gYWY

Some comments.

1. The video doesn't apparently show one shot them when one passenger had his hands out, though Sharp does ask "did they just shoot at us".
So, it's possible they did shoot at them as Sharp has always said at the first stop, and it was her talking with the passenger in question afterwards that that was verified. It's also possible some video is missing, because the video doesn't show the passenger seat. It's also possible she was mistaken in that instance. More information is needed on this.

2. The video verifies that the "police" had set up a blind stop (which is not police procedure because it's dangerous, but IS military) and that Finicum immediately when seeing the stop veer's off into the snow.

3. The video also clearly shows that the "police" shot at them as they approached the roadblock.
Now, I need you people to actually use your brains instead of your biases. ZERO police procedure EVER has the police "shooting" at a car in order to do a "traffic stop" as the "police" officially claimed. They ALWAYS use non-deadly means to stop a car. ONLY in the case if the person is a crazed killer or something then gun fire can be used to stop a car in certain instances, which the Finicum people certainly weren't.

4. The video clearly shows that they were shot at the very moment the car stopped, in which also Finicum immediately got out of the car both happening at the same time.
Again, this is not police procedure to "shoot up a car" with people in it, children in it etc. when nobody has pointed a gun at anyone, had a gun in hand, etc. That you people actually think this is "okay" is astounding to me.

5. As the first video mentions, we don't know if Finicum was actually shot as he got out, which is why he ultimately reached to his side moving his jacket away, possibly realizing he was shot, which is when they shot him dead.
Now, this part of the video I will admit that it seems he wasn't shot when he was away from the car, but was only shot when he was reaching/moving his jacket.

Now let me make something clear. They had full visibility of Finicum, no normal police officer would shoot someone unless they actually saw a gun in hand. You all mistake the events of people "reaching" as somehow justifying police shooting, but that is not the case. It's only in certain "sudden" instances etc. of people reaching are cops "justified" in shooting people. When you have full visibility, time, etc. as these so-called police had, they had no justification at all to shoot simply because he was moving/reaching whatever. Justified shooting would have in this instance ONLY occurred when he had gun in hand, which he didn't. Also, according to testimony Finicum only had a shoulder gun and a hip gun, and apparently both were left at the Refuge, though Sharp does claim that Finicum DID have his hip gun on him that day. There is video of Finicum the day before or so with his hip gun on him. So, this raises various questions. If Finicum had his hip gun on him, why would he be trying to reach for a semi-auto in his jacket pocket as police claimed, and also people said Finicum didn't have a Semi-auto, but only had Pistols? And of course we have the first person testimony that he had his hip gun. So, this still needs some answers. Sadly, the video doesn't show if Finicum had his hip gun on him, a seat divider was blocking seeing his side that low.

Further, let me make something else clear..... This was a "traffic stop" according to police. What traffic stop do police just shoot people for moving around like Finicum did? Let go of your liberal ignorance for a second and think about that. It was NOT a "justified" shooting, period, no matter what. This entire event was blown out of proportion by YOU liberals, your leaders, ordering police to use deadly force to stop peaceful protesters. The protesters being armed is irrelevant. Citizens have the right to be armed. They didn't attack anyone, didn't threaten anyone (other than willing simple self defense), they committed no crime other than property crime. etc. no different than liberal protesters have done, such as their illegal occupation of the Wisconsin Capital Building. Of course, the difference is Conservatives were in charge there, and conservatives aren't Fascists using police power and deadly force to stop people from illegally occupying and protesting.

6. The video clearly shows the police continuing to shoot them, shoot tear gas etc., clearly trying to murder them.
Only when the "police" realized they couldn't get away with continuing to try and murder them do they then allow them to surrender.
Again, remember, all this is because they occupied a government building.... as if they were "infringing" on the Rights of the "Government" as if IT is a human being with rights, when in fact the government building belongs to the people, and the people have the right to redress and to protest and use government buildings to get that redress.

There was no reason for a death to occur. YOU kind of people chose to escalate this event against normally law abiding and good peaceful citizens, salt of the earth people. YOU made the people the enemy..... This event clearly shows how liberals ARE in fact Fascists. If the people dare to rise against their power, they will be shut down by lethal force. No peaceful negotiating, etc. like Finicum and Bundy's were doing and going to do that day going to a meeting and seeing the people and sheriff of the area.

You all should be ashamed of yourselves.... You've made simply having guns a crime, when the Oregon protesters only crimes were no different than any liberal occupations and protesting for which you are perfectly fine with and don't think people should have been arrested and deadly force used against.

by the way, the video also shows how "afraid" they were, how they were doing nothing to "provoke" or show lethal intent, yet the "police" did show lethal action through at least the last half of the video. Again, what part of people being or attempting lethal actions are ONLY what justify police using lethal force do you people don't understand?

[_canpakes]

Finicun: Still wrong, still dead.

faqs: Still supporting whiny, ignorant traitors who ignored common sense, ignored law enforcement, and ignored the community that they invaded.

[_ldsfaqs]

Finicun: Still wrong, still dead.

faqs: Still supporting whiny, ignorant traitors who ignored common sense, ignored law enforcement, and ignored the community that they invaded.

by the way, the video also shows how "afraid" they were, how they were doing nothing to "provoke" or show lethal intent, yet the "police" did show lethal action through at least the last half of the video. Again, what part of people being or attempting lethal actions are ONLY what justify police using lethal force do you people don't understand?

Not wrong.... unjustly dead.

Patriots are not traitors, you're mentally and morally confused.
Liberals ignore law enforcement.... that doesn't justify law enforcement to use lethal force. You liberals did the same exact things in Wisconsin as the Refuge people in Oregon did, yet you all didn't have arrest warrants drafted and had the FBI and Special Forces take down your protesters for illegal occupying government property. The only difference between the two groups is the Oregon people were armed as is the Citizen's right to be. Or course, in Wisconson some of your Union people were armed. The Oregon people were good law abiding people simply protesting, there was no justification for lethal force there.

You confuse liberal propaganda reporting with being the same thing as the "community" being against them being there.
First, they were in no "community"..... they were in an out in the middle of no where Refuge, the community was a long way away. Second, the "problems" only started because of the Police State actions, which is what the "community" was having a big problem with. Third, there are 300 Rancher family's that are about to be put out of business and their lands confiscated by the Federal Government all simply for a "Memorial".

They WERE wanted there by many.... you being told different by your liberal masters is not the same thing as the truth and facts.
So, as usual you liberals don't know the truth, nor have any true morality and character, because if it had been liberals it had occurred to, you would be all up in arms.

[_Res Ipsa]

It amazes me. After every shooting of a black dude, we hear a chorus of "if he'd only followed the cops' instructions, he'd be alive." Finicum, refused instructions to exit the vehicle multiple times. He threatened that there were others on the way and that there's be a bloodbath. He fled the scene with no excuse whatsoever, then drove at high speed toward a blockade. He jumped out of his truck and refused to get down. He had a thousand more chances than most of those dead black folks.

I have no sympathy whatsoever.

[_canpakes]

by the way, the video also shows how "afraid" they were, how they were doing nothing to "provoke" or show lethal intent ...

... except roll into town uninvited, forcibly take over a wildlife refuge while carrying hundreds of firearms, make demands, and refuse to leave for weeks.

Yep. They were just scared little kittens.

[_ldsfaqs]

It amazes me. After every shooting of a black dude, we hear a chorus of "if he'd only followed the cops' instructions, he'd be alive." Finicum, refused instructions to exit the vehicle multiple times. He threatened that there were others on the way and that there's be a bloodbath. He fled the scene with no excuse whatsoever, then drove at high speed toward a blockade. He jumped out of his truck and refused to get down. He had a thousand more chances than most of those dead black folks.

I have no sympathy whatsoever.

Finicum wasn't a criminal.... he was a protester.
Further, in many of the cases in which people are shot, black dude or otherwise, they are unjustified shootings.
Yet, you are so mad about them, having all the sympathy in the world, yet have "no sympathy whatsoever" for Finicum.

And your wickedness and double standards are exposed for all to see.

[Guest]

by the way, the video also shows how "afraid" they were, how they were doing nothing to "provoke" or show lethal intent ...

... except roll into town uninvited, forcibly take over a wildlife refuge while carrying hundreds of firearms, make demands, and refuse to leave for weeks.

Yep. They were just scared little kittens.

You liberals rolled into town uninvited, when you "forcibly" took over the Wisconsin Capital Building, illegally occupying it, made demands, and refused to leave for weeks.

So if you were intellectually and morally consistent in your judgment, you would think that THEY also, your liberals brothers should have had arrest warrants put out on them and be put to death if they didn't comply when you wanted them to comply.
But you're not intellectually and morally consistent, because the cause is not yours. So, in your warped mind, those Conservatives got what they deserved no matter how unjust it was.

by the way, I should point out not "force" was used against any "persons" in Oregon...... but you liberals DID use force to occupy a building already occupied by government officials and others.

Again, being armed means nothing. An American Citizen is allowed to be armed.
Again, you liberals are so brainwashed that you believe being armed is "evil", so that justifies your Fascism against the people, and even murdering them for simply protesting, for simply driving to a meeting with community people and the Sherriff, etc.

Also, being shot at when you're not hurting anyone or trying to hurt anyone is unjustified government force, and would cause anyone good to be "scared little kittens".
A kitten having claws doesn't justify that kitten to be murdered.....!

[_canpakes]

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Finicum was a criminal...

FTFY. Now it looks more correct.

Key word = was. He died for his ignorance, egotism and refusal to be able to peaceably engage law enforcement officers without repeated threatening actions.

[_ldsfaqs]

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Finicum was a criminal...

FTFY. Now it looks more correct.

Key word = was. He died for his ignorance, egotism and refusal to be able to peaceably engage law enforcement officers without repeated threatening actions.

So in your warped mind the Conservative Governor and leaders of Wisconsin should have used lethal force against you liberals there?
Because the Oregon people did FAR LESS in gravity, intrusion, etc.
Further, you really need to pay attention to words said..... rather than your imagination.
Finicum the entire time ONLY ever said that nothing would happen unless THEY shot first.
Saying you are willing to defend yourself is not a "threat" you moron. Nobody there "threatened" anyone.
Law Enforcement could come and go from the Refuge fully, as long as they were peaceful about it.

Thus, you are a liar.

[_canpakes]

So in your warped mind the Conservative Governor and leaders of Wisconsin should have used lethal force against you liberals there?
Because the Oregon people did FAR LESS in gravity, intrusion, etc.
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faqs, did the Wisconsin protesters bar the building and prevent the legislators from continuing their work? Were they virtually all from outside of the state and did they set up an armed guard to prevent law enforcement, or any person who was not their personal like-minded friend from entering the area?

No.

I know that you worked realllllly hard on trying to come up with some sort of example that you think is comparable to the Oregon standoff, but this one isn't going to do that. No sticky star decal for you. Please stop defending stupid, ignorant, whiny traitors that even your own Church states were in the wrong.