Released inside Finicum Truck Video proves intended killing.

[_SteelHead]

Was cop assisted suicide.

[_ldsfaqs]

So in your warped mind the Conservative Governor and leaders of Wisconsin should have used lethal force against you liberals there?
Because the Oregon people did FAR LESS in gravity, intrusion, etc.
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faqs, did the Wisconsin protesters bar the building and prevent the legislators from continuing their work? Were they virtually all from outside of the state and did they set up an armed guard to prevent law enforcement, or any person who was not their personal like-minded friend from entering the area?

No.

I know that you worked realllllly hard on trying to come up with some sort of example that you think is comparable to the Oregon standoff, but this one isn't going to do that. No sticky star decal for you. Please stop defending stupid, ignorant, whiny traitors that even your own Church states were in the wrong.

1. Actually the Wisconsin protesters did and tried to several times to stop the Republican lawmakers from doing things..... so yes, they did.

2. In Oregon anyone law enforcement and otherwise was free to come and go as they pleased. There was no "armed blockade" as you claim.
Was there some "security" sure.... and that was because they didn't want to be forced to comply with government tyranny against their protest.

So the answer is yes.

Further, even if the Refuge people did those couple of things in some degree as you claim, that does not justify lethal force being used against them. Law Enforcement could still come and go and so could anyone else no matter if pro or con. Nobody was "banned" from being there save maybe trouble makers obviously. Having "security" doesn't some "evil" make as you believe.
They were protesting a legit grievance and standing for the Constitution, which those liberals and law enforcement were supposed to also be supporting but clearly aren't. They were peaceful protesting..... just not protesting for something YOU care about, so you think lethal force is justified.

[_canpakes]

faqs, the lawmakers were able to continue their work. Repeatedly, day after day.

As for the Oregon protesters, they did not let law enforcement enter and mingle, nor was free movement by ordinary citizens allowed by the occupiers without their consent.

Try again.

[_ldsfaqs]

faqs, the lawmakers were able to continue their work. Repeatedly, day after day.

As for the Oregon protesters, they did not let law enforcement enter and mingle, nor was free movement by ordinary citizens allowed by the occupiers without their consent.

Try again.

Again you lie.... and are just assuming facts.

See, the problem here is that you've been brainwashed by your liberal media to believe these people were crazy "militia" trying to overthrow the government, etc. Thus, in your mind, nothing else is true and matters. There is absolutely ZERO difference between the Refuge and Wisconsin other than guns and the Refuge people were more "nice" peaceful, less intrusive etc. about it, though the liberal leaders DID make it more intrusive by turning it into a police state. But, that's not on the Refuge people, that's on the liberal lawmakers because of their Fascism.

Further, it is the Police who did not let people "enter and mingle". They completely shut off the area.
More so, the Refuge was CLOSED..... nobody was wanting to go to work there.
Further, even if they did again, it's a government building, and the people were using it to protest.
It was not like the Capital Building in which work was going on there every day and at the time.
If anything, the Refuge was a MUCH LESS "intrusive" situation..... so, don't know how you're claiming they were infringing on important business and so they were justified to have lethal force used against them. It was a building in the middle of know where that was closed for the winter. What you people did in Wisconsin was FAR more intrusive and costly.

Anyway, I've watched and read about everything ever made on this issue, and you simply are ignorant.
You liberals made this worse than it was because of your fascism. Conservatives lawmakers in Wisconsin could have done the same to YOUR protesters, but they didn't. My comparison works fully.... I see ALL the nuances. Your brainwashing by liberals is not the same thing as truth.

Wisconsin = Illegally occupied day and night buildings and property.
Refuge = Illegally occupied day and night buildings and property.
Wisconsin = Liberals allowed to be asses
Refuge = Conservatives have arrest warrants put out, and be put down by force, and be charged.

[_canpakes]

faqs, you are again not telling the truth. For many days the local law enforcement gave plenty of distance to the refuge and did not control traffic. In fact, other militia groups were allowed to approach the refuge - some were allowed entrance by the Bundynistas but others were driven off by threat or by violence, such as the Veterans on Patrol group.

The Bundynistas repeatedly ignored local law enforcement requests, continued to make demands, and - like children with behavioral problems - seemed determined to provoke a violent outcome with either townsfolk or other groups.

[_Doctor Steuss]

You liberals rolled into town uninvited, when you "forcibly" took over the Wisconsin Capital Building, illegally occupying it, made demands, and refused to leave for weeks.

I didn't think I had ever even been to Wisconsin. Man, I'm a rascal.

[_The CCC]

Finicun: Still wrong, still dead.

faqs: Still supporting whiny, ignorant traitors who ignored common sense, ignored law enforcement, and ignored the community that they invaded.

by the way, the video also shows how "afraid" they were, how they were doing nothing to "provoke" or show lethal intent, yet the "police" did show lethal action through at least the last half of the video. Again, what part of people being or attempting lethal actions are ONLY what justify police using lethal force do you people don't understand?

Not wrong.... unjustly dead.

Patriots are not traitors, you're mentally and morally confused.
Liberals ignore law enforcement.... that doesn't justify law enforcement to use lethal force. You liberals did the same exact things in Wisconsin as the Refuge people in Oregon did, yet you all didn't have arrest warrants drafted and had the FBI and Special Forces take down your protesters for illegal occupying government property. The only difference between the two groups is the Oregon people were armed as is the Citizen's right to be. Or course, in Wisconson some of your Union people were armed. The Oregon people were good law abiding people simply protesting, there was no justification for lethal force there.

You confuse liberal propaganda reporting with being the same thing as the "community" being against them being there.
First, they were in no "community"..... they were in an out in the middle of no where Refuge, the community was a long way away. Second, the "problems" only started because of the Police State actions, which is what the "community" was having a big problem with. Third, there are 300 Rancher family's that are about to be put out of business and their lands confiscated by the Federal Government all simply for a "Memorial".

They WERE wanted there by many.... you being told different by your liberal masters is not the same thing as the truth and facts.
So, as usual you liberals don't know the truth, nor have any true morality and character, because if it had been liberals it had occurred to, you would be all up in arms.

You reach for a gun and I'll blow your damn head off.

[_Themis]

It amazes me. After every shooting of a black dude, we hear a chorus of "if he'd only followed the cops' instructions, he'd be alive." Finicum, refused instructions to exit the vehicle multiple times. He threatened that there were others on the way and that there's be a bloodbath. He fled the scene with no excuse whatsoever, then drove at high speed toward a blockade. He jumped out of his truck and refused to get down. He had a thousand more chances than most of those dead black folks.

I have no sympathy whatsoever.

Finicum wasn't a criminal.... he was a protester.
Further, in many of the cases in which people are shot, black dude or otherwise, they are unjustified shootings.
Yet, you are so mad about them, having all the sympathy in the world, yet have "no sympathy whatsoever" for Finicum.

And your wickedness and double standards are exposed for all to see.

Ya he was a criminal and a protester. He was stopped by police who have legal authority and he refused to follow commands. Why is it that some here always attack the black guy who gets shot by police but always defend the white guy with a cowboy hat who gets shot by police?

[_ldsfaqs]

Ya he was a criminal and a protester. He was stopped by police who have legal authority and he refused to follow commands. Why is it that some here always attack the black guy who gets shot by police but always defend the white guy with a cowboy hat who gets shot by police?

Because that's your lying warped mind that believes such a stupid ignorant falsehood like that.
I defend ANYONE who's unjustly shot....

There's a difference between criminals and protesters getting shot. Something you liberals can only comprehend if it was liberals who had been shot for their illegal protesting, which isn't made illegal through force of the state by either conservatives or liberal leaders.

YOU made it "illegal" by your Fascism Warrants and FBI attacks and control.
Something that no conservative nor liberal does any times liberal illegally protest, occupy, etc.
You only prove that you people are the actual fascists with this story.

[_moksha]

Finicum wasn't a criminal.... he was a protester.

How often do protestors sit in a chair holding an assault rifle and say in a television interview that those Feds will never take him alive? Seems like most protestors make a point of being non-violent and non-aggressive. These "patriots" straddled the fence between being protestors and thugs and they arrived in Oregon with an agenda that varied between the self-interest derived from a land grab and a 150 year plus blood oath against those gosh darned gentile Feds fostered by their faith tradition.