The end of freedom of assembly

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ajax18 wrote:

At least Breitbart is not backing down.


Breitbart.com has basically been in the the tank for Trump. Maybe they should change their URL address to Trumpbart.com instead.

With Trump very likely going to be the 2016 GOP Nominee for President, the Democrats will very likely pick up at least eight Senate seats.

Democrat tries to tie Trump to John McCain in scathing new ad

(CNN) Democrats in Senate races across the country are eager to see Republican voters nominate Donald Trump for president, hoping the bombastic businessman's controversial candidacy would doom GOP incumbent senators nationwide.

Case in point: Arizona.

Rep. Ann Kirkpatrick, a Democrat trying to unseat veteran Sen. John McCain, released Monday a 60-second ad highlighting Trump's most jaw-dropping comments and noting that the long-time Republican incumbent said he would would support the GOP nominee, even if it turns out to be the real estate mogul.

"Donald Trump is dangerous for America," the ad says. "But no matter what Donald Trump says, John McCain would support him for president."

The ad then shows a greatest hits of sorts for Trump, showing his comments about Sen. Ted Cruz and Fox News host Megyn Kelly, along with Trump saying he'd punch a protester "in the face" and criticizing McCain himself for being captured as a prisoner during the Vietnam War.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFa0dNY ... e=youtu.be
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ajax18 wrote:What if a bunch of rednecks were to do the same thing at a Bernie Sanders rally? Just considering the way it would be covered in the press, prosecuted in court, etc. should be evidence enough of the huge double standard here.

Trump has kind of left it up to his supporters to carry on the fight, knowing that if we don't, our rights will continue to be eroded away. I'm not sure we have the power to really stop it at this point. We should have been fighting and using this kind of rhetoric a long time ago. While Trump's support is refreshing. It looks like too little too late.


What kind of inflammatory rhetoric has Bernie Sanders used that would cause Rednecks to want to disrupt his rallies?

Donald Trump has said 'I wish we were in the old days when you could punch somebody in the head.' Then one of his supporters sucker-punches a demonstrator in the head and says 'We may have to kill him next time'. You don't see any relationship between Trump's rhetoric and the actions of his supporters?

Trump's campaign manger, Cory Lewandowski, is now the subject of assault charges filed by Michelle Fields for grabbing her while she was trying to ask Trump a question. And Fields works for Breitbart, one of your favorite news sources. Breitbart's own tepid defense of its own reporter. caused Breitbart's PR Director to resign. From CNN:

KURT BARDELLA: I just disagree with the course of which they've been covering this, and how they've treated Michelle. I think that they've been looking for a reason to disprove something, when all the evidence from a Washington Post reporter's firsthand account, to the bruises on Michelle's arm, to all the photos and video clips that we've seen strongly suggest that Corey Lewandowski, Donald Trump's campaign manager was the one who did this. And there's no reason to never support your own reporter.

DON LEMON: Are you saying they're lying?

BARDELLA: Yes, I am.


Two weeks ago Trump characterized himself as being a 'Unifier'.

“I’m a unifier,” Trump said at a press conference located in his white and gold ballroom at Mar-A-Lago. “Once we get all of this finished, I’m going after one person and that’s Hillary Clinton.”

By 'all of this finished' I assume he means the rather messy Primary process by which the parties choose their nominee.

Donald Trump may think he's a unifier. A rather large percentage of the American People do not. A rather large percentage of his own party do not. In defense of Trump, Ann Coulter called Ted Cruz and Fox News 'traitors'.

The first Republican President asked that we listen to 'the better angels of our nature'. Donald Trump does not appeal to our better angels, but uses his considerable skills to paint a political landscape where he is the solution. He is self-financing, therefore incorruptible. Great. But what about the rest of the country? Are we dependent on a candidate pool of fabulously wealthy men who are therefore incorruptible? Isn't that the beginning of a Plutocracy? What about campaign finance reform?

Try to pin down the great populist Trump on campaign finance reform.

Trump has had great success appealing to the lower angels of our nature. Not all of the lower angels of our nature like Donald Trump.
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Donald Trump has said 'I wish we were in the old days when you could punch somebody in the head.' Then one of his supporters sucker-punches a demonstrator in the head and says 'We may have to kill him next time'. You don't see any relationship between Trump's rhetoric and the actions of his supporters?


Donald Trump told his followers to "knock the crap" out of the protesters and promised to pay for any resulting legal fees if they are prosecuted for their criminal actions. I don't know how you can get any more explicit in advocating violence against dissidents than that.

Put it this way: Does Ajax believe that governments that pay grants to families of suicide bombers are sponsoring terrorism? I bet you anything he does. Forget the part about Trump telling his followers to get violent. How does promising to pay for the legal troubles of people who act violently on his behalf differ from that in terms of indicating support?
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I was even a little disappointed in Ted Cruz for how he responded to this abuse of free speech in Chicago.

I've never been more excited in a presidential election in my life. For the first time we're talking about illegal immigration and possibly putting a stop to it. We're talking about bad trade deals. (both sides, i.e. Bernie Sanders) We have a candidate who is not controlled by the donor class. Donald said he called them, "The bosses." The American voter will once again be the bosses in the Republican party, perhaps even over the entire country. The donors have controlled both parties for a long time and that's why nothing has ever changed. We're talking about the real possibility of change in the best interest of working American people.

The coming battle is quite possibly more important than Bull Run. It really feels like a second war for independence.
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God I hope not. The Southern Rebellion with over 600,000 dead was more than enough.

This guy was really excited about Trump.
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ajax18 wrote:I've never been more excited in a presidential election in my life. For the first time we're talking about illegal immigration and possibly putting a stop to it..

How?

Will Trump issue some sort of tremendously yuuuge Executive Order that will force Congress to vote for total border closure?
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Will Trump issue some sort of tremendously yuuuge Executive Order that will force Congress to vote for total border closure?


All he has to do is enforce the law currently on the books. Pretty radical concept huh?
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EAllusion wrote:
Donald Trump has said 'I wish we were in the old days when you could punch somebody in the head.' Then one of his supporters sucker-punches a demonstrator in the head and says 'We may have to kill him next time'. You don't see any relationship between Trump's rhetoric and the actions of his supporters?


Donald Trump told his followers to "knock the crap" out of the protesters and promised to pay for any resulting legal fees if they are prosecuted for their criminal actions. I don't know how you can get any more explicit in advocating violence against dissidents than that.

Put it this way: Does Ajax believe that governments that pay grants to families of suicide bombers are sponsoring terrorism? I bet you anything he does. Forget the part about Trump telling his followers to get violent. How does promising to pay for the legal troubles of people who act violently on his behalf differ from that in terms of indicating support?


Oh my. I thought Trump's promise to pay the legal fees of people who attack protesters was just bluster. Dangerous bluster, but just bluster. Trump has upped the ante on that, bluster or not, one more notch by indicating he will do so at least in one famous case:

https://www.yahoo.com/politics/trump-pa ... 17932.html

Trump then praised the person for loving his country and attempted to justify his actions.

This is the person who sucker punched a protester, then later talked about the crowd killing him if he returns. Then he speculated that's the safe thing to do because opposition to Trump might indicate membership in a terrorist organization. You never know, so better kill him to be safe. Ironically, that more or less makes him the terrorist.

This is such dangerous behavior on the part of Trump.
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ajax18 wrote:
Will Trump issue some sort of tremendously yuuuge Executive Order that will force Congress to vote for total border closure?


All he has to do is enforce the law currently on the books. Pretty radical concept huh?


Didn't Drumpf criticized Romney over basically campaigning on that back during 2012???

Donald Trump on Monday said Mitt Romney’s “maniacal” and “crazy” policy of “self-deportation,” alienated Asian and Hispanic voters and helped cost him the election.

“He had a crazy policy of self deportation which was maniacal,” Trump told the conservative website NewsMax. “It sounded as bad as it was, and he lost all of the Latino vote. He lost the Asian vote. He lost everybody who is inspired to come into this country.”

Running to the right of his rivals in the Republican primary, Romney endorsed a policy of self-deportation, where illegal immigrants would leave the United States voluntarily. Obama won over two-thirds of the Asian vote and the Hispanic vote, according to exit polls.

“Republicans didn’t have anything going for them with respect to Latinos and with respect to Asians,” the real estate mogul-turned-reality TV star said.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2012/11/trump-romneys-crazy-policy-of-self-deportation-cost-votes-084238#ixzz4188K9VGZ
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