A Great America - What Does That Mean?

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Themis wrote:
Some Schmo wrote:I do have some agreement that all of America's problems are due to immigrants, given the fact that Native American families are the only ones that aren't immigrants.


They are immigrants as well.

Well, true, but they kind of came here first. I suppose the buffalo might have had the same complaint as Native Americans do today.
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Some Schmo wrote:Well, true, but they kind of came here first.


Who is they and where is here? Before European arrival many groups inhabited many areas. Were not even sure how the movements went on and how many there may have been from other areas of the world. Other then the obvious fiction of ancient Israelites.

I suppose the buffalo might have had the same complaint as Native Americans do today.


Many groups fought over territory to access this great resource. Areas that are now inhabited by certain Indian groups were in the past inhabited by different Indian groups.
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The CCC wrote:We're all originally out of Africa. :razz:


Yup.
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Themis wrote:
Some Schmo wrote:Well, true, but they kind of came here first.


Who is they and where is here? Before European arrival many groups inhabited many areas. Were not even sure how the movements went on and how many there may have been from other areas of the world. Other then the obvious fiction of ancient Israelites.

I suppose the buffalo might have had the same complaint as Native Americans do today.


Many groups fought over territory to access this great resource. Areas that are now inhabited by certain Indian groups were in the past inhabited by different Indian groups.


So many groups coming from many areas inhabited many areas in the America's except a small group of maybe 20 Israelites. :rolleyes:
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ajax18 wrote:I think it refers to the general standard of living we once enjoyed as a country compared to other countries in the world. That standard has been declining for so long that this generation is the first to do worse than their parents.

Did this reference the 1950's, the Antebellum South or the happy time before that Ida Tarbell women raised all that ruckus about the Trusts?
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ajax18 wrote:I think it refers to the general standard of living we once enjoyed as a country compared to other countries in the world. That standard has been declining for so long that this generation is the first to do worse than their parents.

If your standard of living improved at a certain rate over the last three decades, and another country that did not experience the same standard initially also saw theirs increase, but at a faster rate than ours although still not eclipsing it, then how does that have any affect on 'American Greatness'? Why would it matter if your standard of living is still increasing in the meantime?

Are you implying that your perception of happiness with your own standard of living is based on how much stuff other people in other countries have?

Based on this definition offered by you, what countries have passed America and its standard of living, enough to rant about the need to "make America great again"? What is it that makes those other countries greater?
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The CCC wrote:So many groups coming from many areas inhabited many areas in the America's except a small group of maybe 20 Israelites. :rolleyes:


There was a group from Japan about 6k years ago. Funny that such a small incursion didn't avoid both archaeological and DNA evidence. I left open some room for small incursions, but we know the major ones came through Alaska. It may have been more then one migration. An incursion of three groups in the Book of Mormon have avoided all archaeological and DNA evidence. Groups the book claims numbered in the millions at their height. Ya, I would say obvious fiction from just that alone even though there is a lot more. :wink:
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What Does it mean to Make America Great Again??

Gasoline Prices under $2.50 a gallon. Link

Unemployment rate below 5.4%. Link

72 straight months of private-sector growth. Link

The U.S. Budget deficit falling to 8-year low. Link
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If your standard of living improved at a certain rate over the last three decades, and another country that did not experience the same standard initially also saw theirs increase, but at a faster rate than ours although still not eclipsing it, then how does that have any affect on 'American Greatness'? Why would it matter if your standard of living is still increasing in the meantime?

Are you implying that your perception of happiness with your own standard of living is based on how much stuff other people in other countries have?

Based on this definition offered by you, what countries have passed America and its standard of living, enough to rant about the need to "make America great again"? What is it that makes those other countries greater?


What are you talking about? I'm not comparing America to other countries. I'm comparing our parents generation to our generation. For a long time in this country people were achieving a better standard of living than their parents for many generations. That's not happening anymore. In fact median income is down since Obama took office back in 2008.
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