When thinking like a businessman is idiotic in Government

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When thinking like a businessman is idiotic in Government

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This to me is the classic example of why it is wrong to assume a businessman has the solutions for running a Government.

Trump says we should consider letting Japan and Korea arm themselves with nuclear weapons so they can reduce their dependency on the costly U.S. umbrella.

This is the classic thinking of a businessman, who is trained to look at all departments as 'profit centers'. Looking at our high military expenditures and the relatively low military expenditures of our allies, he asks 'why are we propping these folks up? Cut 'em loose and they will pick up the slack.' And the simplest and lowest cost way to do that is for them to a nuclear capability as a fallback defense.

And again, as a business strategy that makes perfect sense. But for someone who understands the threads of nuclear proliferation that occur as every new nation joins the nuclear club, the world is less safe, not more.

But that is long-term strategic thinking, and Trump is more bottom-line, what's-the-next quarterly-statement mentality. And the problem is that Donald Trump's hubris is so great, he really thinks he can just apply his business sensibilities to government. He is not humble enough to admit he is a babe in the woods when it comes to understanding crucial aspects of American foreign policy.

Seeing this man stumble around when it comes to nuclear proliferation...I'm sorry, but if this guy were a contestant on The Apprentice, how many of you would be hiring?
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So, let's say you're a billionaire and you want to affect the political process in your favor. Typically, you donate large sums of money to the candidate you think will best represent your interests. Up to this point, that's about the best a ridiculously rich person could do.

But let's say you're a billionaire who also has some experience in entertainment, specifically, lowbrow reality TV entertainment. You've contributed to campaigns in the past and gotten little to show for it - it doesn't work as well as you think it should. What else can you do?

Well, you could look at the other party and think to yourself, if I take all the most extreme positions of the other party, all the unsaid, dog-whistle issues and actually explicitly state them rather than imply them, I could rally a good portion of that party's base. I use my experience in reality TV to whip up emotions, cause contention. Instead of contributing to the candidate of my choice, I could spend my money running for the other party, saying out loud all their dirty yet true positions, and create party chaos. This way, I can almost guarantee the candidate I really want to win the White House, because if I win the nomination, I run in the general like a lunatic. If I lose the nomination, I take all the extreme lunatics with me.

If you're a Democrat, no campaign contribution was ever better spent.

I can't help it. I think Drumpf is trying to hand this to the Dems.
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Some Schmo wrote:So, let's say you're a billionaire and you want to affect the political process in your favor. Typically, you donate large sums of money to the candidate you think will best represent your interests. Up to this point, that's about the best a ridiculously rich person could do.

But let's say you're a billionaire who also has some experience in entertainment, specifically, lowbrow reality TV entertainment. You've contributed to campaigns in the past and gotten little to show for it - it doesn't work as well as you think it should. What else can you do?

Well, you could look at the other party and think to yourself, if I take all the most extreme positions of the other party, all the unsaid, dog-whistle issues and actually explicitly state them rather than imply them, I could rally a good portion of that party's base. I use my experience in reality TV to whip up emotions, cause contention. Instead of contributing to the candidate of my choice, I could spend my money running for the other party, saying out loud all their dirty yet true positions, and create party chaos. This way, I can almost guarantee the candidate I really want to win the White House, because if I win the nomination, I run in the general like a lunatic. If I lose the nomination, I take all the extreme lunatics with me.

If you're a Democrat, no campaign contribution was ever better spent.

I can't help it. I think Drumpf is trying to hand this to the Democrats.


I wish Trump would win the presidency so we could prove once and for all if there is any truth to that position. Just loosing in the general election to Hillary Clinton doesn't ultimately reveal anything.
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ajax18 wrote:Just loosing...


C'mon, man.

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MeDotOrg wrote:Looking at our high military expenditures and the relatively low military expenditures of our allies, he asks 'why are we propping these folks up? Cut 'em loose and they will pick up the slack.'

Truer words were never spoken.
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I wish Trump would win the presidency so we could prove once and for all if there is any truth to that position. Just loosing in the general election to Hillary Clinton doesn't ultimately reveal anything.


I don't want him to win the presidency. Trump has been reminding me a bit about another 'non-politician' celebrity. California voters ended up voting for a celebrity as Governor back in 2003, and he ended up being one of the worst Governors California has had.
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Brackite wrote:
I wish Trump would win the presidency so we could prove once and for all if there is any truth to that position. Just loosing in the general election to Hillary Clinton doesn't ultimately reveal anything.


I don't want him to win the presidency. Trump has been reminding me a bit about another 'non-politician' celebrity. California voters ended up voting for a celebrity as Governor back in 2003, and he ended up being one of the worst Governors California has had.
I believe that a individual needs to have held elected office before being elected to President.


We've had far worse Governors in California.
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I don't want him to win the presidency.


I realize that. Do you really think Trump is a Democrat in disguise as Schmo suggests?
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ajax18 wrote:
I don't want him to win the presidency.


I realize that. Do you really think Trump is a Democrat in disguise as Schmo suggests?


No. He is merely a reflection of the current Republican Party base. The more outrageous he gets the more support he gets. Making Trump President is making a suicide pact with the Devil.
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I realize that. Do you really think Trump is a Democrat in disguise as Schmo suggests?


Basically, yes. At least, I think that he doesn't really believe in about half of the things that he has recently been saying.
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