Well, it would be helpful if we actually let ICE do its purported job.
I think having a work visa program where we tax and document Mexican workers/migrants and allow them to go back and forth would probably be the best way ahead. After, say, 5 years of good contributions to our society let them apply for citizenship.
- Doc
For someone I should hate, you sure do make a lot of sense sometimes.
And when the confederates saw Jackson standing fearless as a stone wall the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
I guess when your politics are as bad as they are in Europe, even the Mediterranean sea can't save you.
And when the confederates saw Jackson standing fearless as a stone wall the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
I don't believe that Trump wanting to build a big and long wall along the U.S. and Mexico border is really a good idea. Most of the border between Mexico and California, and Mexico and Arizona already have some kind of fencing. The Rio Grande River border between Mexico and Texas is about 900 miles long. - Link Does Donald Trump really wants to build a long border wall along the Rio Grande River border???? It seems to me that it would be pretty difficult to build a long border wall along the Rio Grande River border. (I have recently read that the border wall would likely have to be about a half mile away from the river.) And Gunnar made a very good point about this a while ago here.
Perhaps the biggest problem with building a border wall or fence along a river is that rivers can change course. The Rio Grande River is particularly notorious for its changeability. http://www.eoearth.org/view/article/155748/
International boundary
Using a river as a natural international border is helpful since the boundary is easily distinguished, but it has its problems too. A meandering river such as the Rio Grande is constantly changing position, eroding one bank and depositing on the other. Long brushy curves, shaped like horseshoes or oxbows, frequently overflow and form new channels. This movement complicates defining the exact international border. Sections along the Rio Grande have been straightened to help prevent the erosion and deposition of {C}sediments. One in particular is the canalization of the river section separating El Paso from Juarez. Today, the border runs down the middle of the deepest portion of the river
I have read several times that it is not unheard of for someone living close to the border to go to bed one night in one country and find oneself in the other country upon awakening the next morning because the Rio Grande changed course overnight.
I don't believe that Trump wanting to build a big and long wall along the U.S. and Mexico border is really a good idea.
How do you propose we enforce the border or do you even want to have a border?
And when the confederates saw Jackson standing fearless as a stone wall the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
I don't believe that Trump wanting to build a big and long wall along the U.S. and Mexico border is really a good idea.
How do you propose we enforce the border or do you even want to have a border?
Well, I believe that Senator Rubio had the best immigration plan running for the GOP Nomination this year, but the majority of GOP Primary voters ended up rejecting him. I believe that Trump's immigration plan is basically cartoonish, and with him trying to get Mexico to pay for the big and 'yuge' wall along the southern border, it would likely end up reigniting illegal immigration from that country.
“Donald Trump says he would force Mexico to pay for a border wall as president by threatening to cut off the flow of billions of dollars in payments that immigrants send home to the country, an idea that could decimate the Mexican economy and set up an unprecedented showdown between the United States and a key regional ally.″ - Link
“The ironic result could be to reignite illegal immigration.″ - Link
"And I've said it before, you want to know what Joseph Smith looked like in Nauvoo, just look at Trump." - Fence Sitter
Even liberals understand the necessity of walls. Five years ago, Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, a Democrat and second-generation Mexican-American, demanded an exception to zoning laws so he could build a six-foot high wall around his official residence. And Hillary Clinton’s family home in Chappaqua, New York, is surrounded by a high security fence complete with a guardhouse.
Two liberals have fences around their house, therefore all liberals are hypocrites for opposing a wall on the Mexican border... got it.
You've heard of New York values? Breitbart logic.
"The great problem of any civilization is how to rejuvenate itself without rebarbarization." - Will Durant "We've kept more promises than we've even made" - Donald Trump "Of what meaning is the world without mind? The question cannot exist." - Edwin Land
Well, it would be helpful if we actually let ICE do its purported job.
I think having a work visa program where we tax and document Mexican workers/migrants and allow them to go back and forth would probably be the best way ahead. After, say, 5 years of good contributions to our society let them apply for citizenship.
- Doc
For someone I should hate, you sure do make a lot of sense sometimes.
I don't know why you think you should hate Doctor CamNC4Me (or anyone else on this board, for that matter, with whom you have honest disagreements), but I agree that his proposal makes a lot of sense.
No precept or claim is more likely to be false than one that can only be supported by invoking the claim of Divine authority for it--no matter who or what claims such authority.
“If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; but if you really make them think, they'll hate you.”
― Harlan Ellison
Well, I believe that Senator Rubio had the best immigration plan running for the GOP Nomination this year, but the majority of GOP Primary voters ended up rejecting him.
That's because Republicans remember the results of Reagan's amnesty compromise. We got the amnesty but we never got the border enforcement. The real world results of Senator Rubio's deal with Chuck Schumer on the Gang of Amnesty would have had similar or perhaps even worse results. Illegal immigration seems to be an issue where it only takes a small percentage of the voting public to thwart any efforts at border enforcement by the silent majority. It only takes a few leaks in the dyke and before you know it you're being hit with a tidal wave.
And when the confederates saw Jackson standing fearless as a stone wall the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
After all, virtually every family in Mexico builds a wall around their home as soon as they can afford one. Those walls, often topped with glass, barbed wire, or both, are as necessary to their daily lives, health, and safety as indoor plumbing.
Apparently, the author has never actually spent any time in Mexico.
Two liberals have fences around their house, therefore all liberals are hypocrites for opposing a wall on the Mexican border... got it.
I think more than two liberals have fences around their house or lock their car doors. Criticizing someone for opposing illegal immigration really is no different than criticizing him for not giving any and all of his money that all the beggars in world might demand.
Apparently, the author has never actually been to Mexico.
I had never seen bars on windows or broken glass placed on top of cinder block walls to cut potential thieves until I went Latin America. I'm sure there are places in the US that look very similar now but the practice was foreign to me at the time.
And when the confederates saw Jackson standing fearless as a stone wall the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.