The implication is OP's post suggests there's a Creator. Since Mormonism's truth claims are proven false OP has to go to science to find another 'plausible' explanation for his creationism... In this case the universe is a simulation created by someone or something thus validating the fundamental notion of creationism.
Religionists will often go to science to try and shoehorn their religion into the realm of probability.
- Doc
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Religionists will often go to science to try and shoehorn their religion into the realm of probability.
- Doc
Umm..got a chapter and verse for that speculation?
Seek freedom and become captive of your desires...seek discipline and find your liberty I can tell if a person is judgmental just by looking at them what is chaos to the fly is normal to the spider - morticia addams If you're not upsetting idiots, you might be an idiot. - Ted Nugent
The implication is OP's post suggests there's a Creator. Since Mormonism's truth claims are proven false OP has to go to science to find another 'plausible' explanation for his creationism... In this case the universe is a simulation created by someone or something thus validating the fundamental notion of creationism.
Religionists will often go to science to try and shoehorn their religion into the realm of probability.
- Doc
I don't know what subgenius' intent was, but the partisipants in the discussion linked to in the OP aren't presenting a position related to creationism. NDT took a position that is explained well in the link. Which, by the way, is not that controversial if about as unnerving to people as Descartes' demon typically is - that being not at all because the implications generally fail to shake a person's confidence in their perceptions of reality and or affect a person's thinking. Anyway -
One of the main arguments that physicists use to talk about what's known as the "simulation hypothesis" is that if we can prove that it's possible to simulate a universe — if we can figure out all the laws that govern how everything works (which physicists are trying to do) — that makes it much more likely that it is actually simulated. If we know that it's possible to do something, it's much easier to think that thing is being done.
We haven't been able to figure out how to simulate a universe — yet. But it's not too hard to imagine that some other creature out there is far smarter than us.
Tyson points out that we humans have always defined ourselves as the smartest beings alive, orders of magnitude more intelligent than species like chimpanzees that share close to 99% of our DNA. We can create symphonies and do trigonometry and astrophysics (some of us, anyway).
But Tyson uses a thought experiment to imagine a life form that's as much smarter than us as we are than dogs, chimps, or other terrestrial mammals.
"What would we look like to them? We would be drooling, blithering idiots in their presence," he says.
Whatever that being is, it very well might be able to create a simulation of a universe.
"And if that's the case, it is easy for me to imagine that everything in our lives is just the creation of some other entity for their entertainment," Tyson says. "I’m saying, the day we learn that it is true, I will be the only one in the room saying, I’m not surprised."
The world is always full of the sound of waves..but who knows the heart of the sea, a hundred feet down? Who knows it's depth? ~ Eiji Yoshikawa