Cruz Drops Out

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Re: Cruz Drops Out

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subgenius wrote:The voter turnout and ballot counts completely prove your conclusion wrong....but you typed it anyway....impressive.


What turnout and ballots counts prove is "You can fool some of the people all of the time".
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If it were any other candidate, I would agree that Hillary should be Drumpf, but Hillary's not exactly widely liked either. Bernie's doing quite a number on her in these primaries. Whoever wins between Donald/Hillary will be the most unfavorable president ever elected.

I keep hearing people say this should be a cakewalk for Hillary, and it should, if she were a "normal" candidate. The problem I'm seeing is that she's alienated a large portion of the Dem base, she sucks at attracting independents, and if people aren't excited about the Dem nominee, they'll stay home.

Repubs, on the other hand, tend to vote more widely out of a sense of party loyalty. They vote more consistently. They may not like Trump now, but they will sign up as soon as the GOP attacks on Hillary really gain steam.

The other thing Trump's got going for him is being the outsider candidate. This is the year of anti-establishment, unpredictable politics. As odd as it may seem, I think he's going to get a surprising number of Bernie supporters to swing his way.

I don't know... I don't think it's at all certain one way or the other.
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I don't believe it will be a cake walk for Hilary. But I do think she'll eventually win. It'll be just less than what Bernie would.
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Clinton is hugely popular among the Dem base. She beat Sanders precisely because she's so popular among rank and file Democrats. I honestly don't understand where some people here get their assertions.
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subgenius wrote:
Themis wrote:
Unfortunately for you many republicans may realize Trump is the worse of the two.

The voter turnout and ballot counts completely prove your conclusion wrong....but you typed it anyway....impressive.

You mean him winning 30-40ish% of the 20ish% of Republicans that turn out? Oh yeah, that demonstrates he'll be beloved by all Republican voters in the general.
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EAllusion wrote:Clinton is hugely popular among the Dem base. She beat Sanders precisely because she's so popular among rank and file Democrats. I honestly don't understand where some people here get their assertions.

Which assertion you talking about there, sport?

As of last month, the Dem base is about 32% of the population.
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The CCC wrote:Kasich just dropped out of race.


Governor Kasich is too good for the Republican Party.
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If it were any other candidate, I would agree that Hillary should be Drumpf, but Hillary's not exactly widely liked either. Bernie's doing quite a number on her in these primaries. Whoever wins between Donald/Hillary will be the most unfavorable president ever elected.

I keep hearing people say this should be a cakewalk for Hillary, and it should, if she were a "normal" candidate. The problem I'm seeing is that she's alienated a large portion of the Dem base, she sucks at attracting independents, and if people aren't excited about the Dem nominee, they'll stay home.



But Hillary has managed to win over Bernie in North Carolina, Virginia, Florida, and Ohio. All four of these States should be crucial battleground States during the 2016 Presidential election. If Hillary becomes the 2016 Democratic Nominee, I don't think she will have to worry that much about liberal voters staying home from those four battleground States. If Hillary wins two out of four of those battleground States during the 2016 Presidential election, she will very likely win the Presidency.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_St ... rida,_2016

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_St ... inia,_2016

http://cnu.edu/cpp/pdf/april%207%202016 ... -final.pdf
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After the election of 2012, Bobby Jindal famously announced that the GOP "must stop being the stupid party".

Bobby Jindal now supports Trump.

'nuff said.


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Some Schmo wrote:
EAllusion wrote:Clinton is hugely popular among the Dem base. She beat Sanders precisely because she's so popular among rank and file Democrats. I honestly don't understand where some people here get their assertions.

Which assertion you talking about there, sport?

As of last month, the Dem base is about 32% of the population.

Your assertion that she's alienated a large portion of the Dem base. Her favorability ratings among partisan Democrats is quite high. It's even high by Democrat standards. I feel like you are just making this up based on your own feelings re: Sanders and Clinton.

On the flip side, Subgenius is laughing at the idea that the Trump campaign has to worry about a wave of Republican splitters because the election turnout and results vindicated his popularity among Republicans. Nevermind that Trump has the lowest favorability ratings among Republicans of any Republican nominee ever.

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