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Tonight there was a news item about a security guard assaulting a transgender person attempting to use the women's room in Washington D.C.

I wonder what would happen if Transgendered People started using their sex-appropriate restrooms, just like the law (and presumably God) in certain God-fearing parts of the country intends.

So you and your son Jimmy are in the restroom at a ballgame and the urinal next to Jimmy is now occupied by an obviously transgendered but nevertheless stunning blonde in fishnet stockings who hitches up his skirt over his sex-appropriate plumbing.

You know what would happen: Transgendered persons following the law would face a greater risk of assault than they do now. The reason this doesn't happen is that transgendered people do not use their sex-appropriate restrooms.

Society is stuck between the horns of a dilemma: We say are not discriminatory, but many, in the name of God, would create a situation that would increase the likelihood of vigilante assaults. How can this be a better situation?

Spoiler alert:
Having a men's restroom distinct from a women's restroom is already an act of discrimination.

The scenario you describe above is not controversial (or relevant) because ultimately the reality reveals itself and the appropriate sex is in the appropriate restroom.

My question is what is going to happen when transgendered people start wanting to play sports in the other gender? Will people accept a sports loss to a team of girls that includes biological males that identify as female?

An aside- Its "transgender" not "transgendered."

But, yes, it would obviously cause major problems for the scenario you give.

This "issue" seems to have been manufactured merely for political purposes. It's not to protect people.

There is a simple solution that is already being used in some places.

Make a multiple use restroom to have a common (open) sink area and then all the stalls are floor to ceiling fully enclosed with a lock. No problems.

Locker rooms can have areas with fabric curtains for people who are shy.

cinepro wrote:My question is what is going to happen when transgendered people start wanting to play sports in the other gender? Will people accept a sports loss to a team of girls that includes biological males that identify as female?

Trans people have already been dealing with the issue of being allowed to play sports.

just me wrote:

cinepro wrote:My question is what is going to happen when transgendered people start wanting to play sports in the other gender? Will people accept a sports loss to a team of girls that includes biological males that identify as female?

Trans people have already been dealing with the issue of being allowed to play sports.

Yes. Somewhat famously.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ren%C3%A9e_Richards

just me wrote:An aside- Its "transgender" not "transgendered."

Absolutely. Thank you, Just Me.

just me wrote:An aside- Its "transgender" not "transgendered."

But, yes, it would obviously cause major problems for the scenario you give.

This "issue" seems to have been manufactured merely for political purposes. It's not to protect people.

There is a simple solution that is already being used in some places.

Make a multiple use restroom to have a common (open) sink area and then all the stalls are floor to ceiling fully enclosed with a lock. No problems.

Locker rooms can have areas with fabric curtains for people who are shy.

There is no rational or reasonable justification for making such burdensome and costly concessions.

subgenius wrote:There is no rational or reasonable justification for making such burdensome and costly concessions.

Then maybe you should just stop worrying about other people's junk when you're in a restroom.

subgenius wrote:Spoiler alert:
Having a men's restroom distinct from a women's restroom is already an act of discrimination.

The scenario you describe above is not controversial (or relevant) because ultimately the reality reveals itself and the appropriate sex is in the appropriate restroom.

So you're saying all men will respond to a man dressed as a woman pulling a penis out of her panties to pee and say "Oh, that's cool, it's a guy", and that person would not be any more likely to be attacked than any other man in the restroom?