Why isn't John Lewis Racist?

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_Maxine Waters
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Re: Why isn't John Lewis Racist?

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His argument is Russian interference in the election and as yet to be revealed information about/from Comey that seemed to royally piss off Democrats delegitimatizes Trump's victory.


When they prove those allegations in a court of law he can properly call it illegitimate.
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Bach wrote:Some day EA, either you or anyone with far greater intelligence can susscintnly explain what information was provided by this supposed "Russian Hack" that wasn't accurate or true, or, what actions taken by FBI Comey were not a result of original actions of Clinton.

Why are liberals so frustrated by facts and truth?


Well, that thoroughly missed the point. But, since you want to talk about this completely different subject, let me ask you this: If, by some happenstance, Republicans are hacked in the future and their stolen documents are released to the public for purposes of harming their election chances, you're absolutely fine with this, right? I just want you to say that for posterity.
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Maxine Waters wrote:
His argument is Russian interference in the election and as yet to be revealed information about/from Comey that seemed to royally piss off Democrats delegitimatizes Trump's victory.


When they prove those allegations in a court of law he can properly call it illegitimate.


So, in your view, Fidel Castro was the legitimate winner of Cuban elections? If not, feel free to point out the court cases he lost in Cuba saying otherwise.

I think you have a highly quirky understanding of what "legitimate" means in this context. Like, imagine you are some horrible racist who spent years arguing that Obama was not a legitimate president because he was secretly born in Kenya and was not a US citizen. You understand that regardless of court cases, asserting that the president is not a US citizen is effectively calling the president illegitimate, right?

You don't seem to understand that you don't have to think that a legal system has upturned the results of an election to think the election did not occur fairly. Sometimes the legal system isn't equipped to determine election fairness or is unfair itself.

We have an actual example of this in American history. Hayes's election was not legitimate. Tilden almost certainly won the real election.
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Maxine Waters wrote:I'm not sure John Lewis understands what the word legitimate means. Trump was legally elected President. Yet he somehow thinks he's not the legitimate president.

Term limits, got to get that done.


Term limits don't really work. California has term limits. And I don't want big government telling me that I can no longer vote for the Congressman or Senator that I like having.
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Tell me Bach, did John Lewis boycott any other Presidential inauguration? I seem to remember a few of the other Presidents were white...
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Maxine Waters wrote:
His argument is Russian interference in the election and as yet to be revealed information about/from Comey that seemed to royally piss off Democrats delegitimatizes Trump's victory.


When they prove those allegations in a court of law he can properly call it illegitimate.

Maybe John Lewis is just mimicking the path for himself that Donald Trump has blazed to get to the White House: begin labeling the new inhabitant as illegitimate. Trump's birther claims against Obama secured Trump's spot in the hearts of America's racists, giving him a base from which Trump built into an electoral college victory despite a 2.8m popular vote loss.
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Maxine Waters wrote:
His argument is Russian interference in the election and as yet to be revealed information about/from Comey that seemed to royally piss off Democrats delegitimatizes Trump's victory.


When they prove those allegations in a court of law he can properly call it illegitimate.

Did Trump wait to properly call Obama illegitimate on Trump's birther allegations having been proved in a court of law?
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Did Trump wait to properly call Obama illegitimate on Trump's birther allegations having been proved in a court of law?


Fair enough. I don't remember Trump saying Obama was not a legitimate president. I remember him asking for his birth certificate but Obama would not provide it for quite some time.
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Maxine Waters wrote:
Did Trump wait to properly call Obama illegitimate on Trump's birther allegations having been proved in a court of law?


Fair enough. I don't remember Trump saying Obama was not a legitimate president. I remember him asking for his birth certificate but Obama would not provide it for quite some time.


Meanwhile PE Trump won't provide his tax returns. 74% polled want to see them.

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