Why isn't John Lewis Racist?

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Maxine Waters wrote: I remember him asking for his birth certificate but Obama would not provide it for quite some time.

Trump went on his talk show rounds about the birth certificate in March-April of 2011. Obama released the original 1961 certificate on April 27, 2011
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Doctor Steuss wrote:
Maxine Waters wrote: I remember him asking for his birth certificate but Obama would not provide it for quite some time.


Trump went on his talk show rounds about the birth certificate in March-April of 2011. Obama released the original 1961 certificate on April 27, 2011


Majax is not having a good day.

Trump stomped around making accusations left and right, then when it was definitively shown that he had no evidence on his side at all, he had the gall to claim credit for laying to rest the false rumours that he had devoted immense efforts to repeating on every public platform to which he could get access.

But people still defend him ...
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Maxine Waters wrote:I'm not sure John Lewis understands what the word legitimate means. Trump was legally elected President. Yet he somehow thinks he's not the legitimate president.

Term limits, got to get that done.


Put away your white sheet. Illegitimate can mean other things than without legal authority,
SEE illegitimate

il·le·git·i·mate (ĭl′ĭ-jĭt′ə-mĭt)
adj.
1.
a. Being against established or accepted rules and standards: an illegitimate means of winning a debate.
b. Being against the law; illegal: an illegitimate contract.
c. Not valid or defensible: Their reasons for missing school are illegitimate.
d. Incorrectly deduced; illogical: an illegitimate conclusion.
e. Biology Unacceptable as a scientific name because of not conforming to the international rules of nomenclature.
2. Offensive Born to parents not married to each other.
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After Obama's birth certificate was released, Trump argued it was fraudulent and continued on that the president was not a US citizen.

Trump attacked the legitimacy of Obama based on a racist conspiracy theory that was ludicrous. He was the most famous promoter of that racist conspiracy theory. Doesn't seem proper to equate that with ambigulous issues surrounding the actual Russian conspiracy to elect Donald Trump.
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EAllusion wrote:After Obama's birth certificate was released, Trump argued it was fraudulent and continued on that the president was not a US citizen.

Trump attacked the legitimacy of Obama based on a racist conspiracy theory that was ludicrous. He was the most famous promoter of that racist conspiracy theory. Doesn't seem proper to equate that with ambigulous issues surrounding the actual Russian conspiracy to elect Donald Trump.


And then later he had the audacity to say it was Hillary Clinton who started that and that he was only trusting her that it was true and that he never really pushed the issue.
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Kevin Graham wrote:
EAllusion wrote:After Obama's birth certificate was released, Trump argued it was fraudulent and continued on that the president was not a US citizen.

Trump attacked the legitimacy of Obama based on a racist conspiracy theory that was ludicrous. He was the most famous promoter of that racist conspiracy theory. Doesn't seem proper to equate that with ambigulous issues surrounding the actual Russian conspiracy to elect Donald Trump.


And then later he had the audacity to say it was Hillary Clinton who started that and that he was only trusting her that it was true and that he never really pushed the issue.


I'm an exit poll from the election I posted in another thread a minute ago, it found that 94% of Trump voters found him to be honest and trustworthy. Let that sink in.
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Kevin Graham wrote:And then later he had the audacity to say it was Hillary Clinton who started that and that he was only trusting her that it was true and that he never really pushed the issue.

To be fair though, while it didn't start with Hillary, it did kind of start with Hillary supporters. The email they were circulating during the primaries (claiming Obama was born in Kenya) is what initially caused Obama to release his certificate of live birth in June '08.

Granted, it was a Republican perennial candidate (Andy Martin) who probably got the ball somewhat rolling in '04 with his press release stating that Obama was a closeted Muslim.
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EAllusion wrote:I'm an exit poll from the election I posted in another thread a minute ago, it found that 94% of Trump voters found him to be honest and trustworthy. Let that sink in.

This deserves further comment. So I think the first reaction anyone is likely to have to a stat like this is shock and disappointment that people would think this despite how frequently and obviously Trump tells lies about things both large and small. Is it that people confuse a willingness to say offensive things with being a truth-teller? Is partisanship this blinding? What's going on? This is an exasperating and important topic, but I don't think it is the first thing you should think about.

What you should think about is all the dubious (and dangerous) assertions Donald Trump makes and realize that there is an audience of millions upon millions of people who find those assertions to be coming from a credible source. That's what should sink in.
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You'll never go far wrong in underestimating the intelligence of the average Drumpf voter. The man has spend his 70 years of life showing us what he is like.
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