Trump Sticks it to Struggling Homeowners.

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The CCC wrote:I'm better off financially than when I rented. My rent was $900/month with a expected raise to $1000/month. My mortgage was $1033/per month. So that is a wash. I was reading the other day that the apartment is now going for $2500/month. My net worth however has increased substantially, and with my mortgage paid off. My house is mine.


I love seeing that. I really do. That's the great thing about a mortgage is that you lock in a fixed price, for the most part. Rent, not so much. I call a mortgage the 20-year good call.

Taking flipping a house and/or a hot market off the table, if you're going to stick around in an area for 15-20 years that's about when a mortgage really pays huge dividends. Sooner if you pay your mortgage off <15 years.

For example rent at the complex where I lived in 2015 has already bumped ~$100-150/month in just a year's time from when I left. I suspect it'll go up another $50 around Summer time. So. ALREADY, in less than a year my mortgage is ~$150 cheaper per month (I bought an old farmhouse on the West side of SLC and locked in a sweet rate). If I project out what rent will be over the course of 20 years here in SLC, and stick with a conservative estimate I'm ahead of the cost by easily $40k. Probably more like $75k. However, I'm paying my house off over the next three to four years. Factor in not paying mortgage interest over 11-16 years and you're looking easily another 60k, and I'm being really conservative just to make a point.

In other words, HOME OWNERSHIP BENEFITS POOR to MIDDLE CLASS PEOPLE FAR MORE THAN ANYONE ELSE.

I get renting if you're bouncing around a lot. But if you're sticking around you really can't beat homeownership, and this is coming from a dude who has shat about 30k the first year alone into his home just to make it liveable.

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Maxine Waters wrote:You're ultimately just renting from the government anyway.


That's true. No doubt about it.

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Haven't made a house payment in 26 years. So screw you guys who think I'm stupid.

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I love seeing that. I really do. That's the great thing about a mortgage is that you lock in a fixed price, for the most part. Rent, not so much. I call a mortgage the 20-year good call


I can see what you mean about the interest rate on your loan but you have a lot less control on the cost of homeowner's insurance.

When I brought my house I was paying $3k/year in homeowner's insurance. The very next bill that came out they jacked it up to $5k/year. Every year I had to shop around and renegotiate that rate and sometimes I couldn't get it lower than $4k/year even with the minimum amounts of coverage that the bank would permit.
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The hell? Do you live in a lake? I pay well under 1k per year.
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Jersey Girl wrote:Haven't made a house payment in 26 years. So screw you guys who think I'm stupid.

:lol:


I certainly don't think you're stupid for that. In your day home ownership was a great investment. I think it's still a good investment if you have the 20% down payment, live in an area where the homeowner's insurance isn't outrageously high, and plan to work there the rest of your life.
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EAllusion wrote:The hell? Do you live in a lake? I pay well under 1k per year.


Dude. I pay $360/year. If something wears out I'll just replace it. $4k/year? Majax either has a palatial home (good for him if that's the case) or he's getting scammed hard.

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Maxine Waters wrote:I wish I had just kept paying rent. I'd be better off financially if I had. Out of around $2k in monthly mortgage costs only $300 goes to principal for me. The rest is interest, taxes, PMI, homeowners insurance, flood insurance, HOA fees etc. That doesn't even count all the repair and upkeep costs. I could have saved myself a lot of labor mulching, mowing, gardening, painting, raking leaves, etc.



Your abject stupidity isn't the norm. I mean, as old as you are you're still don't even have 20% equity in your home and are still paying PMI? You probably bought a home sitting in a flood plain. Most folks only pay less than $100/month for insurance on homes under $350,000.
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Majax is either has a palatial home (good for him if that's the case) or he's getting scammed hard.

- Doc


Not a palace. That's just what it costs to live along the gulf coast and perhaps it should. WV was cold and remote but at least the homeowner's insurance rates weren't like this. Granted you still pay this indirectly when you rent but it doesn't seem like as much.
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Majax strikes as the kind of guy who thinks 10x12=120,000.
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