Obama illegally wire tapped Trump Tower

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Obama illegally wire tapped Trump Tower

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The sitting President just accused the former of illegal spying on a US citizen. I had no idea! Obama is going down.

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Re: Obama illegally wire tapped Trump Tower

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Drumpf is in deep doo-doo. It takes a FISA warrant issued by a FISA Court judge, based on probable cause, for such an action.
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            A penny for the Old Guy


                       I

    We are the hollow men
    We are the stuffed men
    Leaning together
    Headpiece filled with straw. Alas!
    Our dried voices, when
    We whisper together
    Are quiet and meaningless
    As wind in dry grass
    Or rats' feet over broken glass
    In our dry cellar
   
    Shape without form, shade without colour,
    Paralysed force, gesture without motion;
   
    Those who have crossed
    With direct eyes, to death's other Kingdom
    Remember us-if at all-not as lost
    Violent souls, but only
    As the hollow men
    The stuffed men.

   
                              II

    Eyes I dare not meet in dreams
    In death's dream kingdom
    These do not appear:
    There, the eyes are
    Sunlight on a broken column
    There, is a tree swinging
    And voices are
    In the wind's singing
    More distant and more solemn
    Than a fading star.
   
    Let me be no nearer
    In death's dream kingdom
    Let me also wear
    Such deliberate disguises
    Rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves
    In a field
    Behaving as the wind behaves
    No nearer-
   
    Not that final meeting
    In the twilight kingdom

   
                   III

    This is the dead land
    This is cactus land
    Here the stone images
    Are raised, here they receive
    The supplication of a dead man's hand
    Under the twinkle of a fading star.
   
    Is it like this
    In death's other kingdom
    Waking alone
    At the hour when we are
    Trembling with tenderness
    Lips that would kiss
    Form prayers to broken stone.

   
                     IV

    The eyes are not here
    There are no eyes here
    In this valley of dying stars
    In this hollow valley
    This broken jaw of our lost kingdoms
   
    In this last of meeting places
    We grope together
    And avoid speech
    Gathered on this beach of the tumid river
   
    Sightless, unless
    The eyes reappear
    As the perpetual star
    Multifoliate rose
    Of death's twilight kingdom
    The hope only
    Of empty men.

   
                           V

    Here we go round the prickly pear
    Prickly pear prickly pear
    Here we go round the prickly pear
    At five o'clock in the morning.
   
    Between the idea
    And the reality
    Between the motion
    And the act
    Falls the Shadow
                                   For Thine is the Kingdom
   
    Between the conception
    And the creation
    Between the emotion
    And the response
    Falls the Shadow
                                   Life is very long
   
    Between the desire
    And the spasm
    Between the potency
    And the existence
    Between the essence
    And the descent
    Falls the Shadow
                                   For Thine is the Kingdom
   
    For Thine is
    Life is
    For Thine is the
   
    This is the way the world ends
    This is the way the world ends
    This is the way the world ends
    Not with a bang but a whimper.
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Re: Obama illegally wire tapped Trump Tower

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Louise Mensch had reported back in November that the FBI had applied for and been granted a warrant. (It was the second attempt to get one). Guess we're going to find out now.
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From what I'm able to put together, this is a mis-reading of a story about wire-tapping in relation to the ongoing Russia investigation. It had nothing to do with Trump personally. And none of it was instigated by Obama.

Perhaps, instead of gold, the dominant motif at Trump Tower should be tin foil, the better to keep the CIA from sending brain waves...
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Donald Trump Claims Barack Obama Ordered Wire Tap On Trump Tower Before Election
But he offered no evidence to back up the claims.

President Donald Trump has accused former President Barack Obama of “wire tapping” Trump Tower before the 2016 presidential election.

Trump made the claims in a series of tweets that he posted early Saturday, although he offered no evidence to back up his allegations ― and a former adviser to Obama pointed out that presidents cannot order wiretaps.

“Terrible!” Trump wrote at 6.35 a.m. Eastern time. “Just found out that Obama had my ‘wires tapped’ in Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism!”


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/don ... v509t3xr&&


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Re: Obama illegally wire tapped Trump Tower

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I love Trump's tweets. Always full of paranoia and misspellings. Who needs The Onion when we have Trump's tweets?
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Re: Obama illegally wire tapped Trump Tower

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Hey, maybe the Democrats can dress in white again to protest one of the most egregious and slanderous accusations a sitting President has levied against a former President in the modern era. You know. Because dressing up gets crap done. :/

- Doc
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Re: Obama illegally wire tapped Trump Tower

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If there was enough suspicion about Trump for the FBI to get a legal warrant for a wire tap on Trump Tower, that reinforces my suspicion that one of the main reasons Trump decided to run for president in the first place was the desperate hope that as President of the United States he could somehow use the power and influence conferred on him by that office to deflect or avoid just indictment and prosecution for real and serious crimes he had committed.
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Re: Obama illegally wire tapped Trump Tower

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:... dressing up gets ____ done.


Sometimes wearing a particular kind of clothing is an effective and appropriate response to a political situation.

Suppose, for instance, one has to sit in front of Trump listening to a series of hypocritical and often mendacious statements, and does not wish to behave an openly disrespectful and disruptive way to the president (such as shouting 'YOU LIE!" as someone did to Obama). Then deciding as a group to wear a particular kind of clothing is a good way of calling attention to oneself, and ensuring that your motives get talked about.

At other times, other kinds of actions are appropriate and effective. The women who dressed in white for Obama's speech are all experienced political operators, and know far more about hardball politics than you or I ever will. They'll do whatever it takes to make their point in the way they judge most effective.

Perhaps you need to ask why you are letting this issue raise your blood pressure so much. It's not good for you at all. Something about women, perhaps?
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