Yet another tweet from President: Charlie Gard

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moksha wrote:
... nucleoside therapy has not even been tried on a mouse model with RRM2B.


Perceptive penguin.

This is not one of those cases where a sick child is brought to the US for a 'miracle treatment' that makes it better. As the judge noted in the first hearing, the treatment in question has not even been tested on an animal with the genetic disorder from which this child suffers. The US doctor in question recognises that the child is 'in the terminal stage of his illness'.

The child has a heavily damaged brain, progressively wasting muscles, and suffers from convulsions. We cannot tell whether he has a nervous system capable of perceiving stimuli, but if he does it is likely that he is feeling pretty bad.

The role of the court is to ask the hard question: is the near certainty of inflicting more suffering on the child worth the tiny chance that his life might be - slightly - prolonged?

And, sadly, there may be times when parents are not the best people to take that decision.
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What does "This isn't about Trump" mean to you?


Not much at all when you mention Trump several times in the post, including the claim that he has a history of being concerned about children. Again, Trump's only consistency is that he is going to tweet/post or talk about something that was already brewing in the Right Wing propaganda machine and I backed up my claim with a link proving it.

And yet, even though I specifically stated that "This isn't about Trump", you chose to turn what I hoped would be a thoughtful discussion about parent's choices during the most painful time of their lives, into yet another toxic political ____ show.

Shut up, Kevin.


You go shut up. I can talk about whatever the hell I want. The article you quoted talks about Trump just as much as the kid. Your thread is specifically about Trump's tweet. Your article cites Trump and you mentioned him again towards the end of your post, so stop acting dumb like we're all supposed to believe this has nothing at all to do with Trump. If you wanted a Trump-free discussion about this poor kid then starting a thread like that would have been as easy saying, "Charlie Gard" instead of "Yet another Tweet from President".

You can always go hang out with Cee-Boo in his safe zone, over at the Youtube channel for Project Veritas.
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Jersey Girl wrote:That's right. He doesn't give a ____ about anyone but himself, Kevin.

http://www.snopes.com/trump-flies-sick-boy/


I'll see your one example of political grandstanding in a effortless attempt to help one kid, and raise you 22 million people thrown off of their health care. Don't be so naïve as to think this idiot cares about anyone other than himself.
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So when Jehovah's Witnesses refuse their children a life-saving blood transfusion because it is against their religious beliefs, do Erick Erickson and Donald Trump believe the state should not step in? They cannot have it both ways.

As far as Trump suddenly talking about Charlie Gard, here is the reason why:

http://theresurgent.com/the-erick-erick ... e-29-2017/
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Trump Tweets, making 4th of July ALL ABOUT HIMSELF

http://newcenturytimes.com/2017/07/04/t ... ing-video/
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I can understand the urge to think Drumpf has some kindness in what passes for his heart, and be willing to latch on to any scintilla of evidence for that proposition. The problem is that we know way too much about him to believe it's true.

As far as this terminally ill child goes, I am once again struck with how human beings are more humane toward cats and dogs than we are people. If you love someone, you let them go.
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Kevin Graham wrote:So when Jehovah's Witnesses refuse their children a life-saving blood transfusion because it is against their religious beliefs, do Erick Erickson and Donald Trump believe the state should not step in? They cannot have it both ways.

As far as Trump suddenly talking about Charlie Gard, here is the reason why:

http://theresurgent.com/the-erick-erick ... e-29-2017/


I don't want to listen to a radio programme to find out what you mean. Please summarise the point that you believe emerges from that link, and explains why Trump is talking about the child in question.
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Vatican has offered to take Charlie Gard into their hospital.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/04/health/ch ... index.html
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Kevin Graham wrote:
You can always go hang out with Cee-Boo in his safe zone, over at the Youtube channel for Project Veritas.


You're crapping on more than one thread with your obsession, Kevin. Go “F” yourself.
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Kevin Graham wrote:Trump Tweets, making 4th of July ALL ABOUT HIMSELF

http://newcenturytimes.com/2017/07/04/t ... ing-video/


Really.

Eat crap, sir.
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