Can we impeach this idiot already?

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_Kevin Graham
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Re: Can we impeach this idiot already?

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The CCC wrote:I found this article to be fair and balanced. We really do vote our morals.
SEE http://www.alternet.org/right-wing/answ ... ogressives


From your link:

1. Why don’t Trump supporters turn against Trump even though he is doing things that hurt them (like taking away their health care)?

I think it is because they have for many, many years now, been indoctrinated to literally hate the left so much that they're willing to keep suffering with an idiot of their own if it means they're somehow sticking it to the left. So I disagree with this article saying they genuinely believe it is moral to elect someone like Trump. No they don't. These people are deplorable people for the most part. Just look at them when they congregate, read the signs they hold or the writing on their shirts.

2. Why do Republicans hate the Affordable Care Act and why are they so transparently acting to give wealthy people a tax break by making health care unaffordable?

Again, their pride gets in the way because they have for many, many years been attacking the ACA in blind ignorance.

What I see coming from Trump supporters is not morals or rationality. It is fear, hatred and bigotry. That is a recipe for disaster but also a great way to make people suck it up and take a hit for the team.

Incidentally, my "Christian Conservative" mother posted another idiotic meme about Obama being a Muslim just two days ago, and it was welcomed by a few dozen old white posters who said things like, "We should execute all Muslims now in America." I crap you not. And she clicked "like." This isn't about morality, it is about fear and hatred. These people for all their talk about Liberals being sensitive snowflakes, are the most triggered and frightened people on the planet.
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Kevin Graham wrote:What I see coming from Trump supporters is not morals or rationality. It is fear, hatred and bigotry. That is a recipe for disaster but also a great way to make people suck it up and take a hit for the team.

Incidentally, my "Christian Conservative" mother posted another idiotic meme about Obama being a Muslim just two days ago, and it was welcomed by a few dozen old white posters who said things like, "We should execute all Muslims now in America." I ____ you not. And she clicked "like." This isn't about morality, it is about fear and hatred. These people for all their talk about Liberals being sensitive snowflakes, and the most triggered and frightened people on the planet.


This. Very sadly, and scarily, this.
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There undoubtedly some of that, but I don't believe it represents most conservatives or liberals. Regular citizens are mostly a combo plate of both to a more or less degree. What makes conservatives more attuned to that message is what I think the author is talking about.

Found this interesting and telling.
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Re: Can we impeach this idiot already?

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Ceeboo wrote:Hey Cam! :smile:

Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:The crux of the issue is Trump supporters really don't possess any particular views on policy (foreign or domestic). They're moved only by a nihilistic hatred of Liberals.


Did you just type that with a straight face? Surely, you had your tongue firmly planted in your cheek, right?

Due to your very balanced and rational contributions lately in and around these highly charged political threads, I am shocked by this bit of complete nonsense that you offer.

You do have one thing right though - there is a political group of people in America that is, in fact, moved only by deep and nihilistic hatred toward their fellow citizens. But it isn't the conservative group nor is it the liberal group.

Peace,
Ceeboo


I think Kevin does a good job of summarizing why I posted what I did. I stand by it, because it makes no sense otherwise. Your side is brainwashed, amigo, to shoot themselves squarely in the foot and feel patriotic while doing it.

- Doc
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.

Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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Seriously. I'm supposed to be a snowflake living in fear? Every time I ride in the car with a friend they're showing off their gun. I'm like why the fuq do you have a gun on you? I'm now 47 and never needed one. I don't live in constant fear that Muslims are out to kill me.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote: Your side
- Doc

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And that's the problem right there.
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Jersey Girl wrote:
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote: Your side
- Doc

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And that's the problem right there.


What's the problem?

- Doc
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
What's the problem?

- Doc


Gee, I dunno, you were talking about his "side".

Partisanship.
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Jersey Girl wrote:
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
What's the problem?

- Doc


Gee, I dunno, you were talking about his "side".

Partisanship.


How is acknowledging Ceeboo as being on the other side, politically, make me a partisan? And how is that the problem in a thread about the President literally collaborating with the enemy and destabilizing this country in every conceivable way that NO Russian could've thought possible?

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Re: Can we impeach this idiot already?

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:
Gee, I dunno, you were talking about his "side".

Partisanship.


How is acknowledging Ceeboo as being on the other side, politically, make me a partisan? And how is that the problem in a thread about the President literally collaborating with the enemy and destabilizing this country in every conceivable way that NO Russian could've thought possible?

- Doc


The other side of what exactly?
Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.
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