Remembering the last President

[_Jersey Girl]

Let me explain before I get accused of playing semantic games again. I wrote quickly, but I know what I read regarding Presidential succession and term limits.

A person can serve as President a total of 10 years. That is to say, a person can serve as President the last 2 years of someone else's term and then go on to serve 8 more years. Now, I don't know how this plays into the next provision.

Quick and dirty scenario.

Biden runs for President with Obama as his VP running mate. They win.

For whatever reason, Biden cannot serve out his full term in office. He gets sick, he dies, or...he resigns. Obama could legally step in as President again.

I'm NOT saying this is probable. I'm saying it's legally possible.

And that's why I said, if anyone bothers to read my post, "under the right conditions" he can come back. And note that I said, "one can dream". In other words, it's possible though not probable.

Would they do it? Probably not.

Could they? Yes, they could.

Again, I'm not at all sure that the 10 year rule applies to the above. I don't think that it is clearly stated that it does.

ETA: If the 10 year rule does apply, I think he could serve the last 2 years of Biden's term as President.

[_Jersey Girl]

22nd Amendment discusses not being elected (or run) for a third term. In the scenario I mentioned, Obama wouldn't be elected to a third term. He'd step into the position according to presidential succession, serve out the last 2 years.

ETA: 2 years or more. I'm still not sure the 10 year rule applies to the above.

[_The CCC]

You know, under the right conditions, he could come back. But I doubt that will ever happen.

One can dream.

The US Constitution precludes him from ever being President again. Michelle Obama on the other hand ... .

[_Jersey Girl]

You know, under the right conditions, he could come back. But I doubt that will ever happen.

One can dream.

The US Constitution precludes him from ever being President again. Michelle Obama on the other hand ... .

No, it doesn't. It preludes him from being elected President. There is no provision against him serving as President in the exact way as I described above.

[_Xenophon]

Deleted, Saw Jersey noted the 10 year bit higher in the thread

[_subgenius]

22nd Amendment discusses not being elected (or run) for a third term. In the scenario I mentioned, Obama wouldn't be elected to a third term. He'd step into the position according to presidential succession, serve out the last 2 years.

ETA: 2 years or more. I'm still not sure the 10 year rule applies to the above.

what succession are you referring to and where is Obama in that line?

[_The CCC]

No, it doesn't. It preludes him from being elected President. There is no provision against him serving as President in the exact way as I described above.

22nd Amendment
SEE No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this Article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President, when this Article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this Article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.

Drumpf was elected. We might not like it, but he was.

If Drumpf were removed/quit/died Mike Pence would automatically become President.

As Subgenius said there no law of succession for Barrack Obama to become President again.

[_subgenius]

and since the 12th amendment prevents BO from ever being a Vice President, his only shot would be as a cabinet member where that President was gone and then the Vice_POTUS was gone...Senate president is 3rd - then Secretary of State....yeah, pretty good with stating that there is no way BO will ever ever be back in the White House, except as a guest.

[_Some Schmo]

A man doesn't have to love babies to be a great leader, but it definitely makes you feel there is a human being underneath the person.

I remember seeing one of Obama's last public addresses and feeling like I had completely underestimated him as a president. I suppose my initial opinion of him was tainted somewhat by what I perceived to be a lot of unearned hero worship when he was elected. There were things he did as President that I felt were hypocritical (my biggest complaint was that his didn't do enough to relieve our overgrown prison population given it's mostly made up of minor drug offenders), and while I always admired his nuanced, thoughtful answers to questions, I often thought he could have been more forceful in his approach (don't get me wrong; I think the GOP's philosophy of obstruction at all costs was the much bigger factor in his inability to strike compromise, but it did seem after some time that Obama just gave up on them).

But after listening to Drumpf speak for over a year, it was impressive and disheartening to me just how much we were losing with the end of Obama's administration. In terms of human beings and citizens of the US, he's one of the better ones.

[_The CCC]

He made mistakes like every other one we've had. I think he was a good President, and certainly better than his predecessor. Only time will tell if he will be considered a Great one.