Dept of Veterans Affairs embraces medical pseudoscience

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Dept of Veterans Affairs embraces medical pseudoscience

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https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/damn-t ... doscience/

The VA recently mandated inclusion of acupuncture, reiki, reflexology and other CAM in veterans medical benefits and will require that they be offered at VA medical facilities, ignoring the lack of evidence and federal rules on what medical benefits can be covered.

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If this is accepted by Dept of Vet Affairs then Medicare may not be far behind. And, under the current regime, look for the Utah nutriceutical market to get federal funds.
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Yeah, a fool and his money.

There is an entire snake oil industry built up to sell people on crap based on no reliable evidence.

I have to laugh at a supposed responsible fiscal conservative who wants to spend taxpayer dollars on reiki and reflexology.
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Smh
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Meanwhile, VA supported, and funded use of things with substantial (and growing) scientific evidence and double-blind studies -- like CBD oil -- remain illusive.

But hey, as long as a monk is helping your universal life force to be groovy, who needs those stuffy shirt scientists and their uppity methods, amirite?
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Water Dog wrote:Think of it along the lines of a glorified massage if you must, but this kind of thing is becoming more widespread among the SOF community.

"SOF" = "Soldier of Fortune?"
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Water Dog wrote:A strange god you guys worship.

The many avatars of Lord Vishnu prefer to be called "unique" rather than "strange."

Heretic.
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Maksutov wrote:https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/damn-the-evidence-and-federal-regulations-va-goes-full-speed-ahead-with-medical-pseudoscience/

The VA recently mandated inclusion of acupuncture, reiki, reflexology and other CAM in veterans medical benefits and will require that they be offered at VA medical facilities, ignoring the lack of evidence and federal rules on what medical benefits can be covered.

...........

If this is accepted by Dept of Vet Affairs then Medicare may not be far behind. And, under the current regime, look for the Utah nutriceutical market to get federal funds.


Why didn't you post the entire list? Do you disagree that all of those on the list shouldn't be included in VA health care?

This may be a new mandated list, but I can tell you that acupuncture has been prescribed and covered for years already.
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Doctor Steuss wrote:Meanwhile, VA supported, and funded use of things with substantial (and growing) scientific evidence and double-blind studies -- like CBD oil -- remain illusive.

But hey, as long as a monk is helping your universal life force to be groovy, who needs those stuffy shirt scientists and their uppity methods, amirite?


We have an active and ongoing "relationship" with the VA. What they're doing right now is cutting down on opioid RX's. My best guess is that we'll see CBD oil make the list before long.

I sure hope it does.
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