Pornstar commits Suicide

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Apparently she hung herself after being bullied for refusing to do Porn with someone who did gay porn.

Wonder how the Right Wing media will spin this in a family values kinda way.

Conservative: Stop bullying us for discriminating against homosexuals.

Liberal: Stop damned people for money and then maybe you can preach your Christian values.

Porn star August Ames commits suicide after bullying for refusing to have sex with man who did gay porn
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Kevin Graham wrote:Apparently she hung herself after being bullied for refusing to do Porn with someone who did gay porn.

Wonder how the Right Wing media will spin this in a family values kinda way.

Conservative: Stop bullying us for discriminating against homosexuals.

Liberal: Stop ____ people for money and then maybe you can preach your Christian values.

Porn star August Ames commits suicide after bullying for refusing to have sex with man who did gay porn


No doubt liberal MSNBC host Joy Reid was in your camp KG!!

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Obviously you are too stupid to realize the real Republican and Conservative issue here - because for you it always boils down to some bigoted intolerant axe you have to grind against all things not KG.
But consider this as an illumination for your otherwise dim sense of "wonder".

1. Conservative: Stop bullying us for supporting freedom of choice.
See, this is because she was not discriminating in the quasi-political manner you are suggesting...she simply voiced her objection to working with homo/bi-sexual actors for professional reasons....not for religious reasons, ergo your liberal snipe above does not apply, at least not to literate people.....(yet another example of your blowhard-ness)

2. Liberal: Without total and unquestioning acceptance, nay, without total unquestioning fanaticism for homosexuals you will be considered a hate-filled homophobic that only subscribes to religious view that KG has determined exists for you. Also, we insist that you take our side on all issues because clearly we have insulted and mocked you into understanding how our position is superior to you, your friends, and your family.

It must really irritate you to see people, like August, take a stand for a principle...ever wonder what that is like?
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Did someone steal Kevin's password?
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Wait. Doesn't this underscore the reality of SJW mental illness? They literally bullied a woman to death for her 'intolerance', which, you know, is weird to say that about a porn actress. Their mental gymnastics knows no bounds, and us Liberals, or Democrats, or Progressives have to own that.

It just goes to show you that extremism isn't relegated to politics, or New England Patriots fans.

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Kevin I'm not sure what you're getting at with the article here. It looks like her refusal to shoot with said individual had nothing to do with her religious values and instead was based on some personal risk assessment (whether right or wrong is another debate). She also appears to at least be attracted to the same sex as well, so homophobic is an interesting epithet.
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Xenophon wrote:Kevin I'm not sure what you're getting at with the article here. It looks like her refusal to shoot with said individual had nothing to do with her religious values and instead was based on some personal risk assessment (whether right or wrong is another debate). She also appears to at least be attracted to the same sex as well, so homophobic is an interesting epithet.


Thanks for that, I couldn't bear to read any of the story. But now that I have, I see one of her tweets

"I’m not putting my body at risk, i don’t know what they do in their private lives." (as opposed to heterosexuals who document everything they do in their private lives?)

"Not wanting to have sex with gay men is not homophobic; they don’t want to have sex with me either"

I guess it didn't dawn on her than some of them could be bi-sexual like her? In any event, I imagine it is still highly presumptuous and discriminatory to say gay men are more likely to perform with STDs than heterosexuals. I suspect there are testing procedures in place in the entire porn industry.

But I also wonder now if this bullying is truly what led her to commit suicide. I mean, you live happily married for years with half the world judging you for damned strangers for money, but it is a small segment of social media accusing you of homophobia that drives you to suicide?
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Kevin Graham wrote:
Wonder how the Right Wing media


Kevin,

The devastating reality of suicide might not be the most appropriate platform for you to voice your political views.

Peace,
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Kevin Graham wrote:
Thanks for that, I couldn't bear to read any of the story. But now that I have, I see one of her tweets

"I’m not putting my body at risk, i don’t know what they do in their private lives." (as opposed to heterosexuals who document everything they do in their private lives?)

"Not wanting to have sex with gay men is not homophobic; they don’t want to have sex with me either"

I guess it didn't dawn on her than some of them could be bi-sexual like her? In any event, I imagine it is still highly presumptuous and discriminatory to say gay men are more likely to perform with STDs than heterosexuals. I suspect there are testing procedures in place in the entire porn industry.

But I also wonder now if this bullying is truly what led her to commit suicide. I mean, you live happily married for years with half the world judging you for damned strangers for money, but it is a small segment of social media accusing you of homophobia that drives you to suicide?


You're right that some of her assumptions lack consistency, we can probably chalk that up to naïveté and youth.

As far as what triggered it; I doubt her family will ever get a satisfactory answer to the question, in my experience there rarely is when it comes to suicide. in my opinion it is impossible to determine what her actual state of mind was, depressed people are often exceptionally good at hiding it and family/friends can often be the worst at recognizing warning signs. From the article it appeared she placed a lot of worth on her social media following so if she was already struggling with some issues, losing their support may have been all it took for her to break. The mind can be a terribly fragile thing and it often doesn't take much to drive one of the edge.

Honestly this is just another tragic case highlighting some of the dangers our highly connected world creates. Black Mirror doesn't always feel so far away.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Wait. Doesn't this underscore the reality of SJW mental illness? They literally bullied a woman to death for her 'intolerance', which, you know, is weird to say that about a porn actress. Their mental gymnastics knows no bounds, and us Liberals, or Democrats, or Progressives have to own that.

It just goes to show you that extremism isn't relegated to politics, or New England Patriots fans.

- Doc


The problem, Doc, is the article doesn't show any examples of the bullying. I looked at her Twitter feed (definitely NSFW) and there were wasn't an avalanche of responses. Lots of responses supported her. It's actually not clear at all that a SJW would bully a woman for choosing who she has sex with. So, unless we actually sit down and inventory the tweets and then go to each treaters stream and figure out whether there is evidence of being an SJW, we can't say at all who the bullies were. They could easily be alt-righters pitching her crap about being hypocritical.

I know this goes against your SJW stereotype, but I just don't see the evidence.

Looking at the page, I'm also wondering if there isn't more to the story than just online bullying.
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