Could You Have Survived this Encounter With Police?

[_Res Ipsa]

This is an article about a police shooting. Watch the video.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/pos ... 161e9f4cea

What do you think your odds would be of following all of the instructions while being shouted at?

Something is seriously, seriously screwed up here.

[_Xenophon]

It is like the most horrific game of "Simon Says" ever where the losers wind up dead. Good grief.

[_Kevin Graham]

Another coward with a gun and a badge guns down another innocent victim and gets away with it.

That's the America Republicans want.

[_Res Ipsa]

Nonsense, Kevin. This knee jerk reflex to blame the other team is silly and counterproductive.

[_Xenophon]

More specifically, instances like this are why I dislike when Trump tells police not to worry about being too rough with suspects.

[_Themis]

What do you think your odds would be of following all of the instructions while being shouted at?

Something is seriously, seriously screwed up here.

One of the major problems is having people like this officer who don't have the proper mentality for these situations. They end up being a danger to everyone. This is a situation any citizen could find themselves in, and now citizens in Arizona have to worry this guy might try and get his job back.

[_Res Ipsa]

What do you think your odds would be of following all of the instructions while being shouted at?

Something is seriously, seriously screwed up here.

One of the major problems is having people like this officer who don't have the proper mentality for these situations. They end up being a danger to everyone. This is a situation any citizen could find themselves in, and now citizens in Arizona have to worry this guy might try and get his job back.

It’s hard to tell from the video how much of what occurs is the officer and how much is training. It seems to me that screaming at someone to perform a series of awkward, unnatural movements while pointing an assault rifle at them and repeatedly saying they will be killed for the slightest deviation from instructions is a recipie for dead civilians.

[_Xenophon]

It’s hard to tell from the video how much of what occurs is the officer and how much is training. It seems to me that screaming at someone to perform a series of awkward, unnatural movements while pointing an assault rifle at them and repeatedly saying they will be killed for the slightest deviation from instructions is a recipie for dead civilians.

Not to mention how counter-intuitive and contradictory some of the instructions were.

This:

"PUT YOUR HANDS STRAIGHT INTO THE AIR, ARMS AS HIGH AS YOU CAN HOLD EM! IF YOU LET THEM DOWN I WILL KILL YOU"

but also this:

"CRAWL TOWARDS ME ON YOU HANDS AND KNEES"



I don't know how an human without proper training is expected to react correctly in that kind of scenario.

[_Themis]

It’s hard to tell from the video how much of what occurs is the officer and how much is training. It seems to me that screaming at someone to perform a series of awkward, unnatural movements while pointing an assault rifle at them and repeatedly saying they will be killed for the slightest deviation from instructions is a recipie for dead civilians.

Training could be a factor, but the video to me suggests he was very scared as well and his screaming and threatening tone was a way to compensate for it. The last thing you want is an officer who cannot control their fear in tense situations. We cannot make that an expectation from an untrained citizen who is being scared shitless. Chappie like robots cannot come soon enough.

[_Res Ipsa]

Exactly, Xenophon. Keep in mind that the suspect’s lizard brain was screaming one of three things: fight, flee, or freeze. Doing any of the three would get him killed.

That’s possible, Themis, but I can’t tell. I wonder if there is any sort of regular review of body cam footage to see how officers handle stressful situations before someone ends up dead.