After the first couple minutes I realized he's just another Right Wing radio guy who gets it wrong and misrepresents both sides to make his side look favorable.
1. The Left is more preoccupied with Politics than the Right?? Is he effing kidding? I live in Red State Georgia. I'm one of five Liberals that I know of in the state (not personally, just on Facebook). I can't even show houses to people without them constantly bringing up politics. I can't even sit down at a closing without an attorney talking about Trump's awesome tax cuts. When I lived in Liberal California (briefly) during the Clinton administration, I never came across people bringing up the subject of politics. In fact it was so absent from everyday life that I didn't even know California was considered a Liberal state until years after I had left.
2. The Right is more concerned with individual moral behavior? Ya, tell that to the millions of voters who say they oppose the Left because they're afraid of what the Left's evil policies have done to society. From abortion, mocking of millennials, to the war on Christmas, the Right's obsession is all about fighting Bill O'Reilley's "Culture War" and getting American back to the way it was when Leave it to Beaver was a hit. Or in other words, 'Make America Great Again."
What he describes doesn't even remotely resemble any Republicans I know.
Ceeboo, for the sake of discussing this with you (as I'm finding my original post was more geared for responding to the video than to you directly) is there a particular point made that you found especially poignant? An insightful nugget that really stuck out to you? Did you agree with everything declared in the video? If not, what did you agree/disagree with?
It might help if I knew what metric you would use to determine that a group has indeed "made society better". Is it less crime? Higher education levels? Less poverty?
As it stands it was little more than a 5 minute video of caricatures (of both sides, frankly) that makes lots of assumptions and doesn't do much to advance a dialogue.
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"If you consider what are called the virtues in mankind, you will find their growth is assisted by education and cultivation." -Xenophon of Athens
Xenophon wrote: It might help if I knew what metric you would use to determine that a group has indeed "made society better". Is it less crime? Higher education levels? Less poverty?
As it stands it was little more than a 5 minute video of caricatures (of both sides, frankly) that makes lots of assumptions and doesn't do much to advance a dialogue.
According to the video Republicans are less concerned about Societal change than the Left. I call BS on that one. Especially nowadays.
He says the Left wants constant "revolution" while the Right wants 'gradual change." I call BS on that too. In reality the Right generally wants things to stay the same or to regress back to an earlier time and the Left wants "progress." People on the Right oppose progress simply because they know it is something the Left wants.
In a nutshell the Right wants society to conform to their religious views. This is the basis for their abortion protests, their hysteria about a war on Christmas, their bigotry concerning homosexuality, and in some contexts, even racism (you'd be surprised how many religious people believe black people were spawned by monkeys based on a once popular interpretation of Genesis).
Once humanity divides itself into factions based on beliefs, political views, skin colour, nationality etc, the very fact it’s divided means you cannot make society better. You can make it suit some better, but in doing so you make it worse for others.
“When we are confronted with evidence that challenges our deeply held beliefs we are more likely to reframe the evidence than we are to alter our beliefs. We simply invent new reasons, new justifications, new explanations. Sometimes we ignore the evidence altogether.” (Mathew Syed 'Black Box Thinking')
This guy again, Ceeboo? viewtopic.php?f=5&t=47861 I’m not seeing the brilliance. Like Xeno, I’d be interested in hearing what specific things he says that appeal to you.
“The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.”
― Hannah Arendt, The Origins of Totalitarianism, 1951
There is a certain irony in the OP video asserting liberals seek to improve society through changes at the social level whereas the conservative sees the morality of the individual as the main concern.
How so?
It may be a reflection on human nature, that such devices should be necessary to control the abuses of government. But what is government itself, but the greatest of all reflections on human nature? If men were angels, no government would be necessary. If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary. In framing a government which is to be administered by men over men, the great difficulty lies in this: you must first enable the government to control the governed; and in the next place oblige it to control itself.
But what did Madison know, right?
The world is always full of the sound of waves..but who knows the heart of the sea, a hundred feet down? Who knows it's depth? ~ Eiji Yoshikawa
Ceeboo, my personal answer to the question asked, minus the video, is probably that contained in Federalist 10 which is validated by the current state of the union as evidenced by the video in the OP.
The world is always full of the sound of waves..but who knows the heart of the sea, a hundred feet down? Who knows it's depth? ~ Eiji Yoshikawa
honorentheos wrote:There is a certain irony in the OP video asserting liberals seek to improve society through changes at the social level
In my mind, the real irony isn't that the video does not assert what you suggest it asserts about liberals - it's that you can't find a single assertion about liberals anywhere in the entire video.
