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RIP Ursula K. Le Guin

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:08 am
by _EAllusion
One of my favorite authors growing up.

Re: RIP Ursula K. Le Guin

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:11 am
by _Res Ipsa
Dang. Really loved The Left Hand of Darkness. RIP.

Re: RIP Ursula K. Le Guin

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:05 am
by _Choyo Chagas
EAllusion wrote:One of my favorite authors growing up.
Res Ipsa wrote:The Left Hand of Darkness.

i am happy to learn that here are others who used to read it.

Re: RIP Ursula K. Le Guin

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 12:33 pm
by _Lemmie
Me too. The Ones Who Walk Away From Omelas is simply profound.

Re: RIP Ursula K. Le Guin

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 1:38 pm
by _subgenius
Res Ipsa wrote:The Left Hand of Darkness. RIP.

Personally, as a southpaw, always was a bit offended by the feminist appropriation of one of the longest running oppressions in world history...left handed-ness.

Re: RIP Ursula K. Le Guin

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 3:56 pm
by _Lemmie
I put this on one of Doc's many threads where he is demonstrating who knows what :rolleyes: , but it really belongs here:
Doc, in case you really are unaware of Le Guin and aren't just trolling, may I recommend one of her short stories, The Ones Who Walk Away From Omelas. I found it hugely meaningful, and If I recall correctly, I have mentioned in a thread here before because of the subject matter. It's only 4 pages or so, you can read it online here:
http://scholar.google.com/scholar_url?u ... s=1093x479

Her writing is superb. Granted, I am really into sci fi, but still, her works occupy a significant place in my Library.

Re: RIP Ursula K. Le Guin

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 4:23 pm
by _moksha
https://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainment/celebrity/ursula-k-le-guin-acclaimed-for-her-fantasy-fiction-is-dead-at-88/ar-AAv5a1h

I posted the short story The Ones Who Walked Away From Omelas before on this board and others. Responses ranged from it being a good story to "too many words". That is a particularly good story for anyone facing a moral or religious quandary.

subgenius wrote:Personally, as a southpaw, always was a bit offended by the feminist appropriation of one of the longest running oppressions in world history...left handed-ness.

In that case Subgenius, I suspect you would be into the masculine side of kemmering.

Re: RIP Ursula K. Le Guin

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 4:42 pm
by _Lemmie
moksha wrote:https://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainment/celebrity/ursula-k-le-guin-acclaimed-for-her-fantasy-fiction-is-dead-at-88/ar-AAv5a1h

I posted the short story The Ones Who Walked Away From Omelas before on this board and others. Responses ranged from it being a good story to "too many words". That is a particularly good story for anyone facing a moral or religious quandary.
exactly.
subgenius wrote:Personally, as a southpaw, always was a bit offended by the feminist appropriation of one of the longest running oppressions in world history...left handed-ness.

In that case Subgenius, I suspect you would be into the masculine side of kemmering.

Or he could just stop feeling oppressed and switch sides. :cool:

moksha, did you read one of her later shorts, called "solitude"? From a review:
The real conflict of the story resides in the cultural differences between the mother and the daughter. The mother wants nothing more than her daughter to live the same type of life that she lived, receive a positive standardized education, get married...

The daughter, raised in the culture of Eleven-Soro, wants to grow her soul in the terms of the culture that she knows, give those stories to others, and experience what it means to be a woman, a person, of that culture.

This cultural miscommunication drives the family apart....

Ursula K. Le Guin creates compelling worlds and complex characters. In “Solitude” she develops a unique type of culture, with a heritage that is all its own. She also clearly illustrates the central conflict between families, the generational confusion that is complicated by the outside influence of others. The narrator understands things that her mother never can comprehend about the culture, that there are not people on Eleven-Soro, but persons, each man and woman of the world is an individualized being not a member of a greater community. This is the core tenant of their culture, individuality above all else.

In “Solitude” Le Guin writes about a world and the culture and people of that world. By seeing it through the eyes of the daughter, rather than the mother, readers are transported into a new type of existence. The mother’s perspective would derive an entirely different message from the auntring and the men around it. She is trapped in the solitude, the aloneness of the culture, rather than the more important self-realization that comes out of the solitude.

https://renegaderobots.wordpress.com/20 ... k-le-guin/


Needless to say, the story spoke to me.

Re: RIP Ursula K. Le Guin

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:07 pm
by _Choyo Chagas
moksha wrote:... subby ...
I suspect you would be into the masculine side of kemmering.

kemmering depends on 'the other around'

what is for those whom 'other' is donald Trump?

Re: RIP Ursula K. Le Guin

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:36 pm
by _Dr. Shades
Choyo Chagas wrote:what is for those whom 'other' is donald Trump?

I don't understand your question. Will you please elaborate?