Armed Cop was at School: didn't go in

[_Kevin Graham]

HORRIBLE.

So there WAS an armed guard (something the Right says would have prevented the shooting) on duty and he froze and stayed outside as kids died.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/officer-at ... 1519341298

In other news, a Utah teacher accidentally shoots herself at school.

Two proposed solutions we know don't work now.

[_EAllusion]

I feel terrible for him. He probably panicked and froze because he was afraid for his life. That's a clear violation of what he signed up for. He needs to be in a different line of work and should've been fired if he didn't resign first. But he's probably going to be crushed by a relentless mob for this. He doesn't deserve that. I wouldn't be surprised if he commits suicide.

[_Kevin Graham]

I feel terrible for him. He probably panicked and froze because he was afraid for his life. That's a clear violation of what he signed up for. He needs to be in a different line of work and should've been fired if he didn't resign first. But he's probably going to be crushed by a relentless mob for this. He doesn't deserve that. I wouldn't be surprised if he commits suicide.

I agree, and I was making this point to a NRA guru the other day on Facebook. People like him and Markk speak as though they have all kinds of experience shooting at other humans. It sounds so easy in theory.

But if trained cops cannot be expected to do well under these kinds of pressures, why expect it from armed teachers?

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Felicia Burgin, a ninth-grade English teacher, was locked in her classroom with students on the second floor of the building, as they heard shots from the floor above.

She said the criticism of Peterson is unfair. Peterson wouldn’t have stood a chance against the gunman in hallways that were filled with students at the time, she said.

“There is no one that is going to tell you a negative thing about Deputy Peterson," she said. “He was an Eagle and he was committed to our school. I don’t know what he could have done other than literally died.”

What could possibly be the simplest solution to this entire scenario?

- Doc

[_Morley]

In other news, a Utah teacher accidentally shoots herself at school.

Three-and-a-half years ago.

[_Gadianton]

what percentage of teachers and cops are prepared for an asymmetric fight where the shooter has body armor and unlimited rounds? Not to mention the element of surprise, a plan, and all-in on the bet.

I always thought that a lone cop is supposed to get backup before confronting a suspect. What are the rules?

[_Kevin Graham]

In other news, a Utah teacher accidentally shoots herself at school.

Three-and-a-half years ago.

Point still stands.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

In other news, a Utah teacher accidentally shoots herself at school.

Three-and-a-half years ago.

This happened at Brookwood Elementary scool in 2017:

http://kutv.com/news/local/child-killed ... t-confirms

Teachers packing heat wouldn't have prevented this.

- Doc

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

In 2016 in Bountifu, UT a 15-year-old boy entered a morning science class, armed with his father's shotgun, and fired a single shot into the ceiling of the classroom. The boy's mother, who had chased him into the classroom, then grabbed the gun and held the boy down, before pulling him into the hall.

I can keep going if the point hasn't been driven home, yet.

- Doc

[_Themis]

I feel terrible for him. He probably panicked and froze because he was afraid for his life. That's a clear violation of what he signed up for. He needs to be in a different line of work and should've been fired if he didn't resign first. But he's probably going to be crushed by a relentless mob for this. He doesn't deserve that. I wouldn't be surprised if he commits suicide.

I agree, and I was making this point to a NRA guru the other day on Facebook. People like him and Markk speak as though they have all kinds of experience shooting at other humans. It sounds so easy in theory.

But if trained cops cannot be expected to do well under these kinds of pressures, why expect it from armed teachers?

Some good points. What is the likelihood of being able to really stop a shooter as apposed to putting in good gun control to keep many of these people from getting a gun? Especially guns designed for killing a lot of people quickly.