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Another shooting
Posted: Fri May 11, 2018 7:11 pm
by _DoubtingThomas
A 14-year-old boy is in custody on suspicion of shooting a teen in the arm at a Southern California high school Friday morning, the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department said. The shooting happened at or near Highland High School in Palmdale around 7 a.m. PT, even as some students still were arriving at school, sheriff's Capt. Darren Harris said. The names of neither the suspect nor the wounded teen, also 14, were immediately released. Both are students at the school. The injured teen brought himself to a hospital and is expected to recover fully, Harris said.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/11/us/calif ... index.htmlBut thankfully California has strict gun laws, so that means the student couldn't get powerful weapons like an AK-47. There was no tragedy because no powerful weapons were used. I hope the media points that out.
Re: Another shooting
Posted: Fri May 11, 2018 10:27 pm
by _Bach
Nine killed in one week in Chicago without any deadly weapon. And their gun controls are the tightest in the nation.
https://www.google.com/amp/www.chicagot ... y,amp.htmlHow do you rationalize this?
Re: Another shooting
Posted: Fri May 11, 2018 11:10 pm
by _Res Ipsa
I think that has been explained to death, hasn't it? First, Chicago's strict gun control laws were ruled unconstitutional a few years back. Second, Chicago has zero control over guns entering the city from locations where they are legal to purchase and own. It's one of those parroted talking points that make no sense.
Re: Another shooting
Posted: Fri May 11, 2018 11:58 pm
by _ajax18
Second, Chicago has zero control over guns entering the city from locations where they are legal to purchase and own. It's one of those parroted talking points that make no sense.
If guns were banned in the entire USA, Chicago would still have very little control over guns entering the country from countries where guns are legal to purchase and own. How much has strict gun control helped to stop gun violence in Mexico? The only thing it has really done is to make law biding people an easier target for kidnappers and extortionists.
Re: Another shooting
Posted: Sat May 12, 2018 12:02 am
by _Res Ipsa
ajax18 wrote:Second, Chicago has zero control over guns entering the city from locations where they are legal to purchase and own. It's one of those parroted talking points that make no sense.
If guns were banned in the entire USA, Chicago would still have very little control over guns entering the country from countries where guns are legal to purchase and own. How much has strict gun control helped to stop gun violence in Mexico? The only thing it has really done is to make law biding people an easier target for kidnappers and extortionists.
Obviously the USA has more control over what enters the country than the control Chicago has over what enters from Indiana. I'm not making an argument for gun control -- I'm pointing out the idiocy of the Chicago talking point.
Re: Another shooting
Posted: Sat May 12, 2018 11:36 am
by _ajax18
If guns are so readily available in Indiana, why don't they have the same problems as Chicago? I'm not sure the law matters as much as the culture and moral values of the people who live there. From the views on this board, IN is full of morally depraved white racist while Chicago is full of benevolent morally superior social justice warriors like Mel Reynolds and Jesse Jackson Jr.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/201 ... 598489002/
Re: Another shooting
Posted: Sat May 12, 2018 12:11 pm
by _Hawkeye
Easily. Chicago borders several states with hardly any gun laws, which is why the vast majority of guns used in Chicago crimes are purchased in those states, not Illinois. Now imagine if all states had the same laws as California and Illinois. Gun fanatics just aren't very smart.
Re: Another shooting
Posted: Sat May 12, 2018 12:12 pm
by _Hawkeye
ajax18 wrote:If guns are so readily available in Indiana, why don't they have the same problems as Chicago?
They do moron.
https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/death- ... t-rates/4/Illinois isn't even in the top 20.
Re: Another shooting
Posted: Sun May 13, 2018 3:02 pm
by _AZCaesar
DoubtingThomas wrote:But thankfully California has strict gun laws, so that means the student couldn't get powerful weapons like an AK-47. There was no tragedy because no powerful weapons were used. I hope the media points that out.
Or not...
The L.A. Times wrote:...An SKS rifle was recovered from an open field west of the school shortly after 8:30 a.m...
Link(Just for reference, the SKS is a Russian-designed semi-automatic rifle chambered for the 7.62x39mm cartridge, whereas the powerful AK-47 referred to above is a Russian-designed semi-automatic rifle chambered for the 7.62x39mm cartridge. Full-auto AK-47s exist, but because they are heavily regulated federally, not just in California, I'm fairly sure that's not what we're talking about.)
Re: Another shooting
Posted: Sun May 13, 2018 9:57 pm
by _Hawkeye
DoubtingThomas wrote:But thankfully California has strict gun laws, so that means the student couldn't get powerful weapons like an AK-47. There was no tragedy because no powerful weapons were used. I hope the media points that out.
That's a bad argument because people CAN obtain and HAVE obtained those weapons in California, the laws just make it a little more difficult.