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Peterson, 55, was widely criticized for his actions and Broward Sheriff Scott Israel opened an internal investigation. The deputy resigned and retired on Feb. 23, "rather than face possible termination."

Peterson, the Sun-Sentinel reported, has received a monthly state pension of $8,702.35 since April. He was paid $101,879.03 last year, according to the news outlet, which cited sheriff's office records.

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A few months ago, a Facebook group I'm in asked people to post something "controversial", and other people should only respond "Agree" or "Disagree."

Someone posted "Police and Firefighters are overpaid." Lots of people put "Agree."

With pensions, overtime and other benefits, it's getting a little out of hand here in California. Eventually, it's all going to be too much and the goose that lays the golden eggs is going to get cooked. I just don't know when that will be.

cinepro wrote:With pensions, overtime and other benefits, it's getting a little out of hand here in California.

Interestingly enough, it's far cheaper to pay an existing officer overtime than it is to hire a new officer with the resulting retirement account, health insurance, training, etc.

Dr. Shades wrote:

cinepro wrote:With pensions, overtime and other benefits, it's getting a little out of hand here in California.

Interestingly enough, it's far cheaper to pay an existing officer overtime than it is to hire a new officer with the resulting retirement account, health insurance, training, etc.

For how long Shades? And please include the present value cost of how pension benefits, salaries get marked at retirement and then how that annuity translates and impacts the taxpayer in the long run!!! If you even know. (But who cares - it’s somebody else’s money, right)

Shades is just wrong on this one. But short term thinking is a core principle to government unions.

cinepro wrote:A few months ago, a Facebook group I'm in asked people to post something "controversial", and other people should only respond "Agree" or "Disagree."

Someone posted "Police and Firefighters are overpaid." Lots of people put "Agree."

With pensions, overtime and other benefits, it's getting a little out of hand here in California. Eventually, it's all going to be too much and the goose that lays the golden eggs is going to get cooked. I just don't know when that will be.

A family member recently retired from teaching. Other than a few years teaching on the air force base, she taught ECSE at Title 1 schools. Her arms are riddled with bite scars. She has to go to physical therapy weekly from the years of trauma on her shoulders, neck, and back.

One of her pet peeves was when local police would hit her up for donations to their fund for medical leave. Whenever she'd get hit up, there'd be a few days of grumbling because teachers paid into their own fund, and made a fraction of the pay.

That being said, I can see why it would be advantageous to pay police well while active duty (it conceivably helps prevent corruption to a degree). But $8700/month pension ... and there's nothing to stop this dude from working in another area of local government and getting paid, and working towards a secondary pension.

Yeesh.

Bach wrote:For how long Shades? And please include the present value cost of how pension benefits, salaries get marked at retirement and then how that annuity translates and impacts the taxpayer in the long run!!! If you even know. (But who cares - it’s somebody else’s money, right)

Shades is just wrong on this one. But short term thinking is a core principle to government unions.

It obviously depends on how much overtime, and for how long. But if the current trends don't justify at least hiring a few more firefighters to offset the overtime, then the salary agreements are screwed up beyond hope...

http://www.kabc.com/2017/05/02/overtime ... ming-rate/

The City of Los Angeles offers very generous overtime to its employees, especially its firefighters. Robert Fellner, Research Director at Transparent California, has compiled his latest list of the top three overtime earners in Los Angeles.

All three work for the Fire Department and all earned more than $300,000 in overtime, pushing their total annual earnings well above $400,000. The top earner’s annual take was $469,198.

Fellner says overtime pay is not driven by fire or other emergencies. Too often, it goes to pay for administrative costs.

“If a recruit was struggling in his exam, he could sign up for remedial classes and receive overtime pay for that.”