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I bet the shooter used an assault semi-automatic rifle. When are lawmakers going to realize that guns do kill people?

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/santa- ... index.html

You shouldn’t bet. It was a shotgun and a handgun.

I agree with the NRA. The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good kid with a fragmentation grenade. Lets arm those students. What could go wrong?

Wondering if Betsy DeVoss will suggest abandoning public education to halt these school shootings?

moksha wrote:Wondering if Betsy DeVoss will suggest abandoning public education to halt these school shootings?

I'm waiting for her proposal for first grade to consist of one semester of Dick and Jane readers and one semester of boot camp.

Her brother could design the curriculum.

DT it would be really refreshing if you would stop focusing on just the guns and take a look at what is going on around the shooter and in his life. Guns aren't the only goddamn problem. There are social issues involved. Do you never look for patterns of behavior and underlying causes?

Try it some time. The issues are far more complex than guns. Stop acting like removing guns is the answer to everything. There IS no one solution. There IS no magic wand to wave.

This society needs to dig in it's collective heels and figure out what the hell is going on with it's (primarily) young male citizens.

"He just snapped," Sederin said. "He didn't seem like he'd ever do that."

Well he did.

Another student, Aiden Gomez, said he didn't think Pagourtzis had been bullied, though he was treated as an outcast because he often wore a trench coat.

Polarization is just a passive aggressive form of bullying.

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott told reporters the alleged shooter used a shotgun and a revolver that were legally owned by his father.

And he gained access to these, how?

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/18/us/dimit ... index.html

Four male posters have posted on this thread. Not one of you has bothered to question what the “F” is going on in the psychology of our male youth that motivates them to act out violently. Not ONE.

What the hell is wrong with you guys?

Jersey Girl wrote:Four male posters have posted on this thread. Not one of you has bothered to question what the “F” is going on in the psychology of our male youth that motivates them to act out violently. Not ONE.

What the hell is wrong with you guys?

We're just dumb, I guess.

On the other hand, stress and psychological problems pretty much exist world wide in similar numbers (especially in adolescents).

The difference in the US may be the accessibility of guns.

Private gun ownership in the US is 101 guns per 100 people. In Canada its 30.8. In the UK it's 6.2 per 100 people.

In most other countries, an angry teenager (or disturbed adult) can yell at his parents (wife) or punch out a schoolmate. In the US it's quite easy for him to acquire weapons and kill people.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_guns_per_capita_by_country

Jersey Girl wrote:
What the hell is wrong with you guys?

Cerebral capacity. Been telling Shades about it right here on this board for a long time.

“Intellectual maintenance cap ex”.

Need to recruit!

DoubtingThomas wrote:When are lawmakers going to realize that guns do kill people?

When are you and others going to recognize that this isn't solely a political issue, it's a societal issue?

These kids are primarily out for revenge. They're ostracized and polarized in their own peer group. Do you ever ask yourself why?

Ten people were killed today, shot in their school. So far this school year, there's been on average a school shooting every single WEEK.

If this kid didn't have access to his father's goddamn gun, he likely would have committed suicide. Have you bothered to look a youth suicide rates in this country? There's a connection if you or anyone else gives enough of a damn to examine it.

This isn't just about the body count of mass shootings. How does the body count in school shootings stack up against the number of youth who kill themselves each year? Are you also concerned about those or does that pile of bodies not matter because it's not politically enticing enough to bother ourselves about?

This society and this board, has a deep capacity for having the same conversation over and over and over and over again.

Is the only answer gun control? Are we missing the forest for the trees?