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“C - Word”: Gender equivalent to “N- Word”
Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 9:25 pm
by _Bach
But I hardly see the left doing anything to terminate Samantha Bee. Just the opposite - she is being honored at an event:
https://www.google.com/amp/losangeles.c ... ademy/amp/This is why America just laughs at America media and liberal governance.
Anyone here who is a gay man, a woman, transgender or just straight find anything justifiable without disgust to the “C-Word”
I bet less than 4 respond on this board!
Re: “C - Word”: Gender equivalent to “N- Word”
Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 7:30 pm
by _Jersey Girl
Listen, where I come from profanity is basically our first language. I'll show you how I size up the two cases regarding Roseanne Barr and Samantha Bee since they're our most current examples. I didn't know who Bee was until this current thing, that's how far out of the loop I am. This strays a little off and away from what you're looking for but still...
1. Roseanne Barr
Method: Tweet
Offense: Racism
Result: Apology issued
Consequence: Fired
2. Samantha Bee
Method: Scripted show
Offense: Female slur/vulgarity
Result: Apology issued
Consequence: None
The difference between the two is that in the case of Roseanne Barr, her comment was a spontaenous message on social media. In the case of Samantha Bee, her comment was part of a scripted show that to my knowledge, was already approved, filmed in advance and aired. In that case, her network shares blame. In my view, the network should actually accept sole blame for the comment because they could have easily censored her and failed to do so.
I've stated previously, that since Barr did issue an apology, I don't know that she should have been fired. I'm still not sure about that. What I do know, is that her subsequent tweets and deletes, haven't helped the situation because they were all over the place. You can only move the goal posts so many times before people see you as insincere or completely unhinged.
Re: “C - Word”: Gender equivalent to “N- Word”
Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 1:51 am
by _Doctor CamNC4Me
"Gunt" is what I call your growing FUPA, ldsfats. You should've taken me up on my offer to pt your ass, now I'm out here walking around these godforsaken mountains trying to get into shape. I blame you.“F” ing world of tanks playing muthashucka.
- Doc
Re: “C - Word”: Gender equivalent to “N- Word”
Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 4:07 am
by _moksha
Autotrader.com in canceling their advertising on Full Frontal called Bee’s use of the C-word “offensive and unacceptable and do not reflect the views of our company, where many of us prefer the P-word.”
Re: “C - Word”: Gender equivalent to “N- Word”
Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 6:35 am
by _MeDotOrg
I first remember seeing Sam Bee on the Daily Show as a correspondent in the months after 9/11. She had some great parodies of the hysteria of the times. While a lot of her stuff was uneven, when she hit it her mark it was usually pretty funny.
So when she got her own show, I started watching. And after a while, I stopped. Her humor and her worldview seem to become constricted around a very rigid set of criteria. She seemed to create a persona for herself like Stephen Colbert when he was on Comedy Central, but unlike Colbert it was a persona she inhabited with no sense of irony. She was a self-styled post-feminist gonzo journalist, crashing the boy's club of late night. Nothing subtle like a bemused sense of irony for Sam Bee.
When she was on Comedy Central, she would do 'set up' interviews, where the poor schmucks didn't know what they were doing. She was particularly good at getting Republicans to say idiotic things at conventions. But I now think it was revealing about Bee's approach to humor. All of her humor is predicated on making the other side look ridiculous. To be fair, that's what a lot of humor is, but scope of Bee's application seems narrow, repetitive and predictable.
Sam Bee had fallen off my radar a bit before this latest episode of Ivanka's bad lady parts. The thing that struck me at first was this was a word only a female feminist would try to get away with using. Imagine Patton Oswald making the same jokes. And the fact that she, her writers and the network went ahead with is incredibly disappointing. If this is now the level of discourse that is to be sanctioned, count me as vehemently opposed.
And while I would generally concede the equality of the c word and the n world, I would point out that Roseanne did not use the n word. She just made the suggestion that African Americans are the result of humans mating with apes. This is not the first time that Roseanne has used the analogy with African Americans. To enjoy the propagation of that type stereotype takes a certain kind of sadism.
The thing about Roseanne compared to Sam Bee, when Roseanne says she'll never do it again, her track record makes that statement seem highly unlikely. I'll be watching closely, but I don't think Sam Bee will go down that road again. In short, if you were a network, would you bet on the rational self-preservation of Samantha Bee or Roseanne Barr?
Re: “C - Word”: Gender equivalent to “N- Word”
Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 7:28 am
by _Hawkeye
Remember the time Ted Nugent, a man, called Hillary Clinton the C-word?
Yeah, he got invited to the same white house that is calling for Bee's firing. How's that for double standard.
Bee. An obscure female comedian who called another female a feckless ____ for ignoring her father's role in tearing apart families and sending their children to traffickers.
Guys call other guys d---s all the time. Is that also on par with the N word?
Re: “C - Word”: Gender equivalent to “N- Word”
Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 7:48 am
by _Jersey Girl
Hawkeye wrote:Guys call other guys d---s all the time. Is that also on par with the N word?
Not where I come from. Not even close.
Re: “C - Word”: Gender equivalent to “N- Word”
Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 8:06 am
by _Jersey Girl
MeDotOrg wrote: And the fact that she, her writers and the network went ahead with is incredibly disappointing.
Well and that's what I see as the difference between what she did compared to Barr. Barr went rogue. Bee was scripted and approved by her network, therefore the network itself is culpable.
I think the important thing is that people are thinking, reflecting, and discussing.
Re: “C - Word”: Gender equivalent to “N- Word”
Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 1:02 pm
by _Some Schmo
Americans are overly uptight about the word ____, compared with the rest of the world. That has become clear.
You've got no problem with pussy though. Kudos.
Re: “C - Word”: Gender equivalent to “N- Word”
Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 1:20 pm
by _Hawkeye
Jersey Girl wrote:MeDotOrg wrote: And the fact that she, her writers and the network went ahead with is incredibly disappointing.
Well and that's what I see as the difference between what she did compared to Barr. Barr went rogue. Bee was scripted and approved by her network, therefore the network itself is culpable.
I think the important thing is that people are thinking, reflecting, and discussing.
The word
was censored because it was
bleeped out on TV, and when comedians go on emotional rants like this it isn't scripted like you think. The difference is Roseanne has a long history of this. She's been a very raunchy and crude personality for decades. She once burned cookies in the oven and called them "Jew cookies" and thought that was cool to say. She grabbed her vagina and spit after screaming the anthem at a ball game, and Republicans still embrace her and don't consider this disrespecting the flag. But a black person kneeling at the request of a white Green Beret? That's anti-American.
There is probably nothing more offensive or socially unacceptable than calling a black person an "ape" in this day and age and Roseanne knows this, but does it anyway. Women calling other women ____ isn't at all uncommon. If Bee were a man it would be a sexist slur, but she isn't and so the effect is minimized quite a bit. It is like when black people call other black people the N word, which is like all the friggin time.