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perception is everything?

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2018 11:48 am
by _subgenius
Tune into Twitter, and you'd think the entire civilized world has turned against him. And yet:

:arrow: Gallup has Trump's approval at a new high since the beginning of his presidency: 45%. That's roughly the same as others at this point: Barack Obama (46%), Bill Clinton (46%), Ronald Reagan (45%) and Jimmy Carter (43%).
:arrow: Support among Republicans is 90% in Gallup, also a high.
:arrow: Among independents, he's up to 42% — tied for his personal best, and only the fourth week in his presidency that he has been at 40% or above.
:arrow: Trump's attacks on Mueller are working, too: The special counsel has a 53% unfavorable rating in Morning Consult polling — a new high, and a whopping 26-point spike since July of 2017

https://www.axios.com/donald-trump-poli ... 0e560.html

and so on.

So, is perception everything? or will November 2018 suddenly manifest something altogether different?

Re: perception is everything?

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2018 1:05 pm
by _canpakes
He certainly is the opioid of choice for a good number of folks.

Re: perception is everything?

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2018 1:19 pm
by _Hawkeye

Re: perception is everything?

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2018 3:07 pm
by _moksha
subgenius wrote: :arrow: Trump's attacks on Mueller are working, too: The special counsel has a 53% unfavorable rating in Morning Consult polling — a new high, and a whopping 26-point spike since July of 2017

So, is perception everything?

Let's call it the Goebbels Effect. Tell big lies, make them simple, and tell them often enough and people will start to believe it.

Soon Chancellor Trump will be asking for emergency powers to rout the menace of the lying media.

Chancellor Trump wrote:Wehrmacht is a good word. A powerful word. Not one of those words like Poo-where-toe Reeco which is spoken by bad hombres and the lying media.

We need a Wehrmacht that can take care of this lying media and Make America Great Again. I have done more to protect America from this lying media than any being in the known universe. Russia and North Korea both know I am great. #ChancellorTrump2020

Re: perception is everything?

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:23 pm
by _subgenius
canpakes wrote:He certainly is the opioid of choice for a good number of folks.

Obviously these folks don't follow Hawkeye's Twitter account...which is the point of the OP...clearly, Hawkeye and his ilk heavily rely on social media for their news/opinion/self-worth - but apparently that internet hair-fire of memes and snark are out of proportion with the polls.

So, seemingly the President tweets not for his faithful, but for those who seek to quench their 'habit' via 140 characters a dose...it seems that Trump has managed to get a certain "type" of person so addicted to distractions that he has (according to the record of facts) managed to accomplish many things under the cover provided by the plethora of hair-fires.....and it seems that the math for November 2018 is going to work out just fine for the Republicans.....Red Wave as it were.

Re: perception is everything?

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:37 pm
by _canpakes
subgenius wrote:...it seems that Trump has managed to get a certain "type" of person so addicted to distractions that he has (according to the record of facts) managed to accomplish many things under the cover provided by the plethora of hair-fires....

You pretend that the worlds of Facebook and Twitter exist without overlap, and that voters for Trump are not part of either world? So interesting.

You also assume that the Administration, if keeping folks occupied with ‘hair-fire distractions’’, does so to benefit that portion of The Base that is both the most populous, and economically disadvantaged cohort. This is also fascinating.

Re: perception is everything?

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 12:34 am
by _subgenius
canpakes wrote:
subgenius wrote:...it seems that Trump has managed to get a certain "type" of person so addicted to distractions that he has (according to the record of facts) managed to accomplish many things under the cover provided by the plethora of hair-fires....

You pretend that the worlds of Facebook and Twitter exist without overlap, and that voters for Trump are not part of either world? So interesting.

You also assume that the Administration, if keeping folks occupied with ‘hair-fire distractions’’, does so to benefit that portion of The Base that is both the most populous, and economically disadvantaged cohort. This is also fascinating.

yet the numbers are more fascinating than your speculations.
#winning

#overlap? how so? are you suggesting that all these poor ignorant racists are Twitter heads?.....then why we no smell their hair fires more often?

#numbersLOOKgood
#sayWHATnovember2018

Re: perception is everything?

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 12:45 am
by _EAllusion
subgenius wrote:yet the numbers are more fascinating than your speculations.
#winning


The number you cited was a temporary high that has reverted down to 41%. Such are the perils of overreacting to a single blip in a single poll. Trump is the most unpopular president in his first term in the history of measuring presidential popularity. He is managing this despite inheriting economic conditions that normally predict approvals 20+ points higher than what he has. That's a heck of a thing to describe as "winning." He's a perpetual loser who manages to get lucky enough to stay afloat until he doesn't. Maybe his luck will hold up with the economy and maybe it won't. He sure as heck isn't helping his chances with igniting a trade war. In the meantime, we are witnessing economic power over the electorate to buoy Trump into an area that is still accurately described as quite unpopular.

That he's at this level of popularity is amazing: both from the perspective of how bad you can be and still get a sizeable chunk of the public and from the fact that he exists in conditions that normally make a president crazy-popular.

Re: perception is everything?

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 2:44 am
by _Kishkumen
Anyone with a single thread of decency or a modicum of civics knowledge should be ashamed to support this corrupt and corrupting creature.

Re: perception is everything?

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 5:07 am
by _canpakes
subgenius wrote:#overlap? how so? are you suggesting that all these poor ignorant racists are Twitter heads?.....then why we no smell their hair fires more often?

It's bad enough that I'd have to, say, point out the painfully obvious and continual hair fires of #DiamondandSilk and their enraged troop of easily-duped followers as just one example amongst many - let alone a certain President unable to contain his daily Twitter vomiting of petty, vindictive, conspiratorial bullshyte - but you're actually making your claim in the midst of the latest national Conservoshart via Twitter regarding the Red Hen.

But go ahead, and tell me another delusion of yours. The bandwidth is nearly limitless; knock yourself out.


subgenius wrote:yet the numbers are more fascinating than your speculations.
#winning

Ah, yesss ... the #winning!! Sooo! Much! Winning!!

Do tell ... which part is the #winning?

The stagnant stock market?
The increase in our debt?
Gas prices climbing?
Interest rates rising?
Relative wage levels staying basically flat?
Your health care and insurance costs climbing?
Social Security and Medicare forecasted to become insolvent even sooner than thought last year?
Our giveaway to North Korea for their having to give up nothing in return?
Being smacked down by Mexico and having to pay billions for a useless wall?
Our continued international fall from a position of respect and trust?
Presidential 'leadership' that demonstrates relentless juvenile self-pity as its only defining value?

Oh, wait - I got it! Transgender folks can't have their own bathroom! Victoryyy!

Lol. Yep. Trump voters, you're all 'winning'! Every one of you is a winner! Don't pay no never mind if something starts to feel a little funny in a few years, OK? Just keep telling yourselves about the #winning while the rest of us watch you give yourself the slow shaft up your own arse. ; )