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PBS Newshour report on family separation lawsuit
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 3:41 am
by _EAllusion
This is appalling on a level that is difficult to take in:
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/m ... separationIf the allegations hold up, and they are quite plausible given the surrounding context, the people who orchestrated this deserve a fate that they're lucky will never come to them.
Re: PBS Newshour report on family separation lawsuit
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 3:42 am
by _EAllusion
As a cherry on top, the government deliberately destroyed records on family separation making reunions that much tougher:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/05/us/m ... ation.html
Re: PBS Newshour report on family separation lawsuit
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:32 am
by _honorentheos
In fact, the Health and Human Services agency charged with overseeing the care of migrant children, the Office of Refugee Resettlement, established such procedures, which included identification bracelets, the issuance of registration numbers and careful logs to keep the records of parents and children linked.
But those precautions were undermined in some cases by the other federal agency that has initial custody of apprehended migrants in the first 72 hours after they cross the border — Customs and Border Protection. In hundreds of cases, Customs agents deleted the initial records in which parents and children were listed together as a family with a “family identification number,” according to two officials at the Department of Homeland Security, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the process.
Wow. There was every indication the Trump administration was acting to deliberately circumvent the law. This would validate that accusation if proven true there was deliberate attempts to remove records of parent s arriving with children to be able to label the children as unaccompanied minors while sending their parents to detention facilities.
Re: PBS Newshour report on family separation lawsuit
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 3:05 pm
by _Gunnar
I predict that the main impact this report will have on Trump is to motivate him to establish a vendetta against PBS and try his best to discredit and destroy it any way he can.
Re: PBS Newshour report on family separation lawsuit
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 5:37 pm
by _ajax18
Do you think it's bad enough that people might not continue to enter the country illegally?
Re: PBS Newshour report on family separation lawsuit
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 5:40 pm
by _EAllusion
ajax18 wrote:Do you think it's bad enough that people might not continue to enter the country illegally?
I don’t know. Maybe crucify those young children and leave them up at the border as an example?
(It’s still not illegal to seek asylum.)
Re: PBS Newshour report on family separation lawsuit
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:02 pm
by _subgenius
As with the documents that the ACLU acquired regarding the treatment of unaccompanied illegal-immigrant children, nothing significant will come of this...but give it to the Democrats for suddenly caring about the welfare of children....even though that story is over a month old.
https://www.aclu.org/news/aclu-obtains- ... us-custody
Re: PBS Newshour report on family separation lawsuit
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:49 pm
by _ajax18
subgenius wrote:As with the documents that the ACLU acquired regarding the treatment of unaccompanied illegal-immigrant children, nothing significant will come of this...but give it to the Democrats for suddenly caring about the welfare of children....even though that story is over a month old.
https://www.aclu.org/news/aclu-obtains- ... us-custody
If America is such a racist and oppressive country, why did you choose to immigrate here?
Re: PBS Newshour report on family separation lawsuit
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:15 pm
by _EAllusion
EAllusion wrote:ajax18 wrote:Do you think it's bad enough that people might not continue to enter the country illegally?
I don’t know. Maybe crucify those young children and leave them up at the border as an example?
(It’s still not illegal to seek asylum.)
If you think it is wrong to crucify children as a deterrent to families attempting to immigrate to the US with them, I am curious how you came up with a line that allows subjecting them to horrific neglect and psychological abuse being A-OK as a deterrent, but not that. In fact, what is the line?
(Given your previous pro-genocide comments on a Nazi message board, I have some doubt you think it is wrong to crucify Latino children, though.)
Re: PBS Newshour report on family separation lawsuit
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:21 pm
by _EAllusion
The US government was asking for an extension on court ordered reunification and asking to narrowly interpret reunification order so that it does not include children whose parents were already deported. This was recently rebuffed in court.