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Evolution of the term 'Fake News'

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 6:06 pm
by _MeDotOrg
To review the origins of the term 'Fake News'. From the BBC:

It was mid-2016, and Buzzfeed's media editor, Craig Silverman, noticed a funny stream of completely made-up stories that seemed to originate from one small Eastern European town.

"We ended up finding a small cluster of news websites all registered in the same town in Macedonia called Veles," Silverman recalls.

He and a colleague started to investigate, and shortly before the US election they identified at least 140 fake news websites which were pulling in huge numbers on Facebook.

The young people in Veles may or may not have had much interest in American politics, but because of the money to be made via Facebook advertising, they wanted their fiction to travel widely on social media. The US presidential election - and specifically Donald Trump - was (and of course still is) a very hot topic on social media.

And so the Macedonians and other purveyors of fakery wrote stories with headlines such as "Pope Francis Shocks World, Endorses Donald Trump for President" and "FBI Agent Suspected in Hillary Email Leaks Found Dead in Apparent Murder-Suicide".

They were completely false. And thus began the modern - and internet-friendly - life of the phrase "fake news".


The origins of the term 'Fake News" began with a Buzzfeed expose of websites who were deliberately making up stories out of whole cloth as clickbait.

I've been watching the evolution of the usage of the term with Donald Trump. And it is instructive in the art of propaganda. He started out attacking what he claimed were 'fake news stories', but that has morphed into an attack on the Fake News Media.

Donald Trump's thumbs wrote:The Summit with Russia was a great success, except with the real enemy of the people, the Fake News Media.


What I think is happening the gradual progression 'fake news' to 'the Fake News Media'. When you can get people to believe in 'the Fake News Media', is fake, you condition your followers to disbelieve that all news coming out of sources which are not friendly, because they are the 'enemy of the people' and their coverage is automatically 'fake'. Facts no longer matter, the source of the story matters.

That is an Orwellian view of facts. The irony is that the website that first uncovered the origins of the original fake news would probably be called a 'Fake News Website' by the President.

Re: Evolution of the term 'Fake News'

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 6:14 pm
by _subgenius
MeDotOrg wrote:What I think is happening the gradual progression 'fake news' to 'the Fake News Media'. When you can get people to believe in 'the Fake News Media', is fake, you condition your followers to disbelieve that all news coming out of sources which are not friendly, because they are the 'enemy of the people' and their coverage is automatically 'fake'. Facts no longer matter, the source of the story matters.

That is an Orwellian view of facts. The irony is that the website that first uncovered the origins of the original fake news would probably be called a 'Fake News Website' by the President.

To be fair, when we witness the "Media" perpetuating "fake news" then it is not an Orwellian view but an increasingly realistic view...and then consider how reporters are being unveiled as fabricating news or fabricating facts to inflate their persona or the story. It is these notions that cast more doubt on the for-profit media sources than do the for-profit Macedonians.

I think your OP attempts to diminish the real, ad growing, problem in the evolution of modern media/news where facts are no longer "good enough".

Re: Evolution of the term 'Fake News'

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 6:31 pm
by _MeDotOrg
subgenius wrote:
MeDotOrg wrote:What I think is happening the gradual progression 'fake news' to 'the Fake News Media'. When you can get people to believe in 'the Fake News Media', is fake, you condition your followers to disbelieve that all news coming out of sources which are not friendly, because they are the 'enemy of the people' and their coverage is automatically 'fake'. Facts no longer matter, the source of the story matters.

That is an Orwellian view of facts. The irony is that the website that first uncovered the origins of the original fake news would probably be called a 'Fake News Website' by the President.

To be fair, when we witness the "Media" perpetuating "fake news" then it is not an Orwellian view but an increasingly realistic view...and then consider how reporters are being unveiled as fabricating news or fabricating facts to inflate their persona or the story. It is these notions that cast more doubt on the for-profit media sources than do the for-profit Macedonians.

I think your OP attempts to diminish the real, ad growing, problem in the evolution of modern media/news where facts are no longer "good enough".

As Res Ipsa's signature line states:

The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.
― Hannah Arendt,

Yes, reporters have fabricated news and fake news stories, on both the left and the right, something that has been happening since time immemorial. That didn't just start in 2016. But to blindly paint the vast majority of reporters as 'The Fake Media' is telling people to abandon their own critical judgement. Trust the President, it's the Fake News Media. Let him worry about what is true.

Re: Evolution of the term 'Fake News'

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 5:02 am
by _canpakes
MeDotOrg wrote:(T)o blindly paint the vast majority of reporters as 'The Fake Media' is telling people to abandon their own critical judgement. Trust the President, it's the Fake News Media. Let him worry about what is true.

And just in time, to prove the point:
Tucker Carlson wrote:“If you’re looking to understand what’s actually happening in this country, always assume the opposite of whatever they’re telling you on the big news stations.”

It is often amusing to watch Fox News and its personalities claim that they are 'number 1' in media popularity, while simultaneously characterizing claimed lesser stations as the mainstream media. Carlson just seals the deal for his viewers, who apparently prefer to shut down their critical thinking skills in preference for being told what they should believe.

Re: Evolution of the term 'Fake News'

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:10 pm
by _DarkHelmet
Trump's Twitter feed is the official state-owned newspaper of the people's republic of America. It is the only source of news we can trust. Anyone who prints anything critical of our glorious leader is an enemy of the people. Our glorious leader has had great success and will vanquish our foes. Al hail our glorious leader.

Re: Evolution of the term 'Fake News'

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:03 pm
by _Kevin Graham

Re: Evolution of the term 'Fake News'

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 9:36 pm
by _MeDotOrg
Today, Donald Trump told the annual VFW convention: “Just remember, what you are seeing and what you are reading is not what’s happening,” Trump said. “Just stick with us, don’t believe the crap you see from these people, the fake news.”

Again, this reinforces the point I'm trying to make, that the term 'fake news' is not based on any factual analysis of the news stories, but fake news means you should ignore the news and "stick with us".

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command."

— George Orwell, "1984"

Re: Evolution of the term 'Fake News'

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:02 pm
by _Gunnar
What makes it even worse is that conservatives are the most easily duped by fake news.
Numerous reports have highlighted how fake news creators began targeting conservative readers after finding them receptive to stories that reinforced their existing worldview. As one fake news creator told NPR, "We've tried to do [fake news with] liberals. It just has never worked, it never takes off. You'll get debunked within the first two comments and then the whole thing just kind of fizzles out."


The reason given for that difference appears later in the article:
In other words, liberals were slightly more predisposed to think critically than conservatives. As Stefan Pfattheicher of Ulm University put it in an email to me, conservatives "are less reflective in information processing, especially when information is consistent with [their] own worldviews."

Re: Evolution of the term 'Fake News'

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:13 pm
by _Some Schmo
Gunnar wrote:What makes it even worse is that conservatives are the most easily duped by fake news.

The right in this country is clearly more religulous, and hence, open to manipulation.

Righteous indignation, as demonstrated by Drumpf lemmings, has nothing to do with righteousness, nor represents any indignation. Sometimes I don't think they even rise to the level of others' criticisms.

Re: Evolution of the term 'Fake News'

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:40 pm
by _Gunnar
Some Schmo wrote:The right in this country is clearly more religulous, and hence, open to manipulation.

I like the new word highlighted in the above comment! It sounds a lot like "ridiculous" which is a fair assessment of so much of what passes for religion. Upon searching the word I found it is the name of documentary on religion by Bill Maher, which, I guess, is where you got it from. I viewed the trailer for it; I can hardly wait to see it. I presume you already have?