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Here it is. I had never read it until today.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents ... tions.html

Hoax? Bombshell? Something else?

Background: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump%E2% ... ia_dossier

It's raw intelligence. We've already seen enough of what's contained in it verified by other means to know that it isn't just fanciful allegations. Like any raw intelligence, I imagine it's a mixture of correct allegations, slightly off the mark suppositions, and completely false information. Until we get a fuller picture from investigations that are constantly under threat, we're not going to know how to suss it out.

P.S. I'm 80% on the pee tape being real.

EAllusion wrote:P.S. I'm 80% on the pee tape being real.

I was on the lower end until reading the actual wording. It seems like Trump hired prostitutes to urinate on one another while on the bed the Obama's had slept in at the Moscow Ritz-Carlton. That sounds much more in character than his being into being involved in golden showers. That had always seems odd given his ego. The above alternative? Yeah, he would absolutely pay women to pee on one another on the Obama's bed while he watched. I don't know if that makes it any more factual, but it makes it more possible in my view.

page 7 is interesting. Paragraph 3 describes the Trump campaign as providing the Russian state with information on Russian oligarchs and their families in the US. That sounds like spying.

paragraph 5 deserves to be quoted:
Suggestion from source close to Trump and MANAFORT that Republican campaign team happy to have Russia as media bogeyman to mask more extensive corrupt business ties to China and other emerging countries.

Detail 1, next paragraph:
Speaking in confidence to a compatriot in late July 2016, Source E, an ethnic Russian close associate of Republican US presidential candidate Donald Trump, admitted that there was a well-developed conspiracy of co-operation between them and the Russian leadership. This was managed on the Trump side by the Republican candidate's campaign manager, Paul MANAFORT, who was using foreign policy advisor, Carter PAGE and other intermediaries. The two sides had mutual interest in defeating Democratic presidential candidate Hillary CLINTON, who President PUTIN apparently hated and feared.

and yet none of it, akin to Obama's cigarette smoking, has relevance to the oath of office. But I'm glad to embrace that which keeps liberals from noticing the policies and procedures being implemented, successfully, daily.

subgenius wrote:and yet none of it, akin to Obama's cigarette smoking, has relevance to the oath of office. But I'm glad to embrace that which keeps liberals from noticing the policies and procedures being implemented, successfully, daily.

Spying for Russia, having corrupt business ties to China and emerging countries? Collaborating with a foreign intelligence agency to undermine another American candidate? Uh, yeah, those have quite a bit to do with his ability to, "preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

subgenius wrote:and yet none of it, akin to Obama's cigarette smoking, has relevance to the oath of office.

Possibly being blackmailed by the Kremlin is completely irrelevant to Trump's oath of office, eh tovarisch.

moksha wrote:

subgenius wrote:and yet none of it, akin to Obama's cigarette smoking, has relevance to the oath of office.

Possibly being blackmailed by the Kremlin is completely irrelevant to Trump's oath of office, eh tovarisch.

keyword = "possibly"...its also possible that alien penguins are manipulating the Illuminati to keep Nancy Pelosi and Maxine Waters in office.

Current evidence shows that Mueller has taken 18 months and $20m to discover that one guy cheated on his taxes and another paid a hooker to be quiet about being a hooker.

But please, tell me more about how your definition of evidence changes when Clinton meets with Lynch on the tarmac during a DoJ investigation.

Subs,

You were upset that the gov spent $60M to discover Bill got a blowie in the White House?

- Doc

subgenius wrote: ... tell me more about how your definition of evidence changes when Clinton meets with Lynch on the tarmac during a DoJ investigation.

Isn’t that when Bill used his Jedi mind powers to persuade Lynch to destroy all of her evidence of the child sex ring that the Democrats were running out of that pizza parlor?