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The value of images

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 1:41 pm
by _subgenius
They say a picture is worth 1000 words, but some pictures are worth millions of votes.

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While the caption on this image is a bit tin-foil-hat for me, i can't deny its value as a counterpunch.

Im curious what the Democrats on this board think about this image.

Re: The value of images

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:14 pm
by _Kevin Graham
The top right and bottom left images are maybe photoshopped but on their own don't really say much. What is the cameraman standing on? Doesn't it make sense to put it on an elevated platform? What's the point here, that the flooding wasn't really that bad after all because Anderson Cooper didn't walk along the elevated curb?

The bottom right image I posted on my Facebook the other day and it is from some local news outlet. It was a video so hilarious I have to wonder if it is fake as well. The guy picked up a shingle and threw it in the air so his audience could see how windy it was and the shingle only blew 8 feet from him. Meanwhile two locals started walking in the background as if it were just another day.

Re: The value of images

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:46 pm
by _subgenius
Kevin Graham wrote:The top right and bottom left images are maybe photoshopped but on their own don't really say much. What is the cameraman standing on? Doesn't it make sense to put it on an elevated platform? What's the point here, that the flooding wasn't really that bad after all because Anderson Cooper didn't walk along the elevated curb?

The bottom right image I posted on my Facebook the other day and it is from some local news outlet. It was a video so hilarious I have to wonder if it is fake as well. The guy picked up a shingle and threw it in the air so his audience could see how windy it was and the shingle only blew 8 feet from him. Meanwhile two locals started walking in the background as if it were just another day.

So, what you're saying is that how you perceive the images may or may not be related to the "truthfulness" depicted by the images. Would these OP images motivate a liberal voter or conservative voter to go to polls this November?

Re: The value of images

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:53 pm
by _honorentheos
subgenius wrote:Im curious what the Democrats on this board think about this image.

That it's a good example of conservative "whataboutTHIS?!!!" behavior.

Because photos from Hurricane Ike where Cooper is shown walking around looking at the water depth and damage in 2008, and a local weather report hamming it up for TV don't counterbalance the kind of blatant dishonesty of the Trump White House and their political arm, Fox News.

I mean, how hard is it to fact check your own meme before posting it, subbie? Yet here you are. That's what I think about that.

Re: The value of images

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 4:15 pm
by _moksha

Re: The value of images

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 4:44 pm
by _Doctor CamNC4Me
I know, right?

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- Doc

Re: The value of images

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 6:37 pm
by _subgenius
honorentheos wrote:
subgenius wrote:Im curious what the Democrats on this board think about this image.

That it's a good example of conservative "whataboutTHIS?!!!" behavior.

Because photos from Hurricane Ike where Cooper is shown walking around looking at the water depth and damage in 2008, and a local weather report hamming it up for TV don't counterbalance the kind of blatant dishonesty of the Trump White House and their political arm, Fox News.

I mean, how hard is it to fact check your own meme before posting it, subbie? Yet here you are. That's what I think about that.

If you set your presuppositions aside you will notice that the OP is not about the "truthfulness" of the imagery....and quite clearly the truthfulness is irrelevant to the point of the OP.

Re: The value of images

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 8:43 pm
by _honorentheos
subgenius wrote:if you set your presuppositions aside...


subgenius wrote:While the caption on this image is a bit tin-foil-hat for me, i can't deny its value as a counterpunch.


Hahahahahahahahaha!

Whew. Ok, so we're supposed to know what the original "punch" was that was being "counterpunched" without any so-called presuppositions. Got it. :lol:

Here's a thought. Your post was of a meme you didn't fact check and turned out to be an example of what the meme is supposedly calling out. So, maybe the takeaway is you should try fact checking crap once in a while.

Re: The value of images

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 11:01 pm
by _Amore

From Snopes: “So while Cooper might have been able to find a somewhat drier spot to report from and instead chose one that provided a visually dramatic appearance, he wasn’t misrepresenting or “lying” about the general state of the flood...”

Drier??? :D So while Cooper was obviously visually misrepresenting facts, he wasn’t lying. ;)

Biased “fact-checker” losing credibility in trying to make the discredited credible.

Re: The value of images

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 11:49 pm
by _honorentheos
Amore wrote:

From Snopes: “So while Cooper might have been able to find a somewhat drier spot to report from and instead chose one that provided a visually dramatic appearance, he wasn’t misrepresenting or “lying” about the general state of the flood...”

Drier??? :D So while Cooper was obviously visually misrepresenting facts, he wasn’t lying. ;)

Biased “fact-checker” losing credibility in trying to make the discredited credible.

How is it misrepresenting facts? Did they dig a hole and fill it with water to pretend like flooding was deeper in the area than it really was? Did they have the national park service Photoshop their report to make it look more dramatic? In the video that still is taken from, Anderson describes attempting to walk towards a house behind him to check out how badly it was flooded but the area behind him being so deep it would come up to his neck so he couldn't go past where he is standing. You think it's dishonest if he doesn't come back to the road and report from the highest ground available?

The reporting was on the flooding and the damage it caused, and it is reportedly showing different conditions around the area the day after Hurricane Ike caused billions of dollars in damage.