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Will someone interpret this dream for me? (WARNING: LONG)

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 7:00 am
by _Dr. Shades
Dear fellow participants:

What's your opinion of dream interpretation? I think Sigmund Freud had the right idea; specifically that dreams are ways in which the ego allows the id to express itself and/or metaphorically exorcise its demons in a socially or morally acceptable fashion. But when it comes to specific objects in dreams universally representing certain things or situations in the real world, well, I'm very skeptical. But then again, I have pretty much zero experience with dream interpretation, so perhaps I shouldn't be closed-minded.

Anyway, I dream quite often, and every once in a while I'll have one that's not just your usual random gibberish but one with a specific and definable backstory and plot, with a beginning, a middle, and an end.

The following is my most recent one of these. It's been on my mind for quite a while now, and I'm wondering if someone who's a believer in dream interpretation would see anything in it and if so, what. YES, I acknowledge that it owes its basic inspiration to the 2016 movie Passengers with Chris Pratt and Jennifer Lawrence, but here goes:

TIMEFRAME:

Sometime in the undetermined future, but before faster-than-light travel had been invented.

BACKSTORY:

I was a passenger aboard a "colony ship" (my word for it; that word combination never occurred during the dream itself) sent out to, uh, colonize a planet an incredible distance away from Earth but known to be able to support life as we know it. The ship was incredibly large, notably with an open interior, but nevertheless able to land on the surface. Onboard was everything necessary to get a colony up and running and self-sustainable, with the ship itself meant to be dismantled for structural parts and spare machinery when necessary. The destination was so far away that there was no hope of any contact whatsoever with anyone from Earth for several generations to come, at the earliest. Ergo, everyone involved with the project--especially me--knew full well that this was a one-way trip.

BEGINNING:

I was brought out of stasis, a.k.a. "hypersleep," with a few hundred others. The ship had already landed on the surface, as was the plan. After wandering around a bit trying to get our bearings, we came to realize, to our surprise, that a few hundred more had been brought out of stasis quite a while before us and were already well underway at the task of unloading the ship and setting things up on the surface to begin life there. This shocked me, since I sort of assumed we'd all be woken up at the same time, but then I saw the sense in avoiding the "too many chiefs, not enough Indians" syndrome at the all-important juncture as the initial landing and debarkation.

As for the planet itself, it was a temperate paradise, with plains and freshwater lakes. The atmosphere was easily breathable and the water easily drinkable. Flowers absolutely ABOUNDED, far more than you see on earth, and their colors were probably more vivid than anything earthly. They were literally "scintillating." They seemed to grow on on top of the other.

MIDDLE:

Fast-forward an undetermined length of time. Everyone was "awake" and the colony was well-established and otherwise running smoothly, but then I had an awful realization: We were at war. All human colonists were at war with "the others"--yeah, creative name, but that's honestly what we called them in the dream. They were the native beings of the planet we were on. The problem was, we couldn't figure out just what, exactly, "the others" were. I or we had narrowed it down to three possibilities: A) They were corporeal beings just as physical as us, B) they were entirely non-corporeal, existing as sentient energies or energy fields; or C) they were a much more sinister version of B, having the ability to occupy human bodies surreptitiously to turn "us" against each other and thereby fight us from the inside.

To make matters worse, it was clear that we were losing. Most humans had retreated back into the original ship, and "the others" may or may not have made incursions into it. Although people were fighting--or doing their best to do so, under the circumstances, since the enemy wasn't easily identifiable--the danger was clear and everyone was looking to board what passed for the escape pods. Yeah, I know that escape pods on landed spacecraft aren't of much help, but these functioned more to provide an impenetrable "safe zone" that couldn't be breached from the outside.

Me and a friend went from one to the other, but they were all already either in use or jettisoned (yes, I'm aware that this contradicts the above paragraph, but hey, it's only a dream). Then we made the decision to find, and board, the "last resort" escape pod, sort of the "boss" escape pod, if that makes any sense at all. We made/fought our way to it--I can't remember the finer details--and upon reaching it, we found that we were the first ones there. Ours for the taking! We boarded it and then sealed ourselves inside.

END:

Upon sealing it shut, I found out, the hard way, that this pod functioned in a way entirely separate from all the others: Whereas the others created a hermetic seal against outside danger, ours was fully that but also provided a second escape feature: Escape via temporality. Specifically, our pod slowed down time itself in the interior so that time appeared, to us, to be passing at an incredibly fast rate on the outside--with the intent that by the time we left the pod the danger would've permanently passed.

While watching things unfold at a blindingly fast pace, I saw that we humans somehow rebounded and, against the odds, won the war. With the danger gone, I saw activity uptick, with tiles being laid all around us, just inches away from my face (the walls of the pods were mostly glass). When my friend and I eventually left the pod, the colony was a fully-built, fully-functional township with all of society, along with every mechanical system, fully operational and running like utopian clockwork.

So, that was my dream. Does anyone have any ideas on what any of it means, if anything? Assuming that there's even a little bit of validity to the concept of dream interpretation, of course.

Re: Will someone interpret this dream for me? (WARNING: LON

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 7:19 am
by _Jersey Girl
I actually learned to do dream interpretation years ago using a Seattle radio host's method. Gayle Delaney, I believe her name was. I'll try to pick through this tomorrow as I have time and see if there's anything I can do with it.

Her method was different than most in that she operated under the assumption that your dream images and their meanings are unique to the dreamer.

She taught people how to induce a dream and I was pretty successful in doing that. Kept a dream journal of those.

Get some sleep.
:lol:

Re: Will someone interpret this dream for me? (WARNING: LON

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 7:20 am
by _Jersey Girl

Re: Will someone interpret this dream for me? (WARNING: LON

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:04 pm
by _Analytics
I have no particular expertise in this area, but I'll share my thoughts.

When you dream, your mind is wandering around all of the memories, experiences, thoughts, and primal impulses that you have tucked in your head. When it discovers incongruences, it takes those items off of the shelf and examines them through a loose creative narrative--i.e. a dream.

Waking up in a faraway uninhabited planet with a Garden of Eden and yet full of evil spirits is straight out of the Plan of Salvation, of course. People are trying to build Zion, yet something doesn't quite fit right. Is running to the escape pods leaving the Church? Perhaps as you sit from the safety of your escape pod you are watching your brothers and sisters build Zion and winning the war against Satan, and once they are done you'll emerge from the pod and return a prodigal son?

On the other hand, the whole thing has a Battle Star Galactica (the remake) vibe to it, where nobody knows for sure who are the good guys and who are the bad guys. Rather, there is just some dark struggle that terrifies us and that we don't understand. Maybe running to the escape pods represents leaving the fight against Mormonism? While the vast majority of people who left the church 20 years ago have moved on with their life, you still have a toe in the water with this board and are watching the fight for souls go by in time-lapse photography?

Re: Will someone interpret this dream for me? (WARNING: LON

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:09 pm
by _Some Schmo
Dr. Shades wrote:So, that was my dream. Does anyone have any ideas on what any of it means, if anything? Assuming that there's even a little bit of validity to the concept of dream interpretation, of course.

I certainly think there is something to dream interpretation, which is to say, I do think dreams are our subconscious trying to say something. I am highly skeptical, however, that there is a map of symbols that are applicable to all dreams/dreamers. What we see in dreams are, like everything else we think about, based on things we've personally experienced. So without knowing exactly everything you've experienced in your life, it's pretty difficult to interpret your dream with any degree of accuracy.

If I had the above dream, I'd think it was a metaphor for the current political landscape, with humans fighting what almost seem like alien creatures (Drumpf enablers) and my desire to go hide in a box until all this BS rode itself out (with a bit of optimism at the end that everything will, indeed, work itself out). That's based on my own experience, however. I don't know that you feel the same way about the current state of affairs.

Is there some kind of war you perceive going on that you want to hide from and observe from a distance?

Re: Will someone interpret this dream for me? (WARNING: LON

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:18 pm
by _subgenius
I dabble with dream interpretation, because "must have meaning" (ergo i will exclude the 3rd option of - forget about it, dreams are the language of subconscious and thus your conscious is illiterate).

2 options really stand out after reading your post....1, your dream could mean you are a pervert or sexual deviant...or...2, your dream is a snapshot analysis of your "self". For example, vehicles (ships, cars, etc.) are akin to your life, they are what transport the "you" through existence...if you are driving then you consider your self in control...if you are a passenger, then um...you are a passenger. So with that in mind consider the other elements accordingly but note that "feelings" of evil or good may well be just circumstances that are a threat or a buttress to established "self". Like something may present itself as "evil" in your dream but it may well be just "change".

that is my 2 cents, keep the change.

Re: Will someone interpret this dream for me? (WARNING: LON

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:21 pm
by _subgenius
Some Schmo wrote:*i can think of and can do nothing other than "I hate Trump"*

Re: Will someone interpret this dream for me? (WARNING: LON

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 10:08 pm
by _Dr. Shades
Jersey Girl:

In the website to which you linked I didn't see any specific answers to anything in my dream. I only saw questions to be asked in an interview, nothing applicable to me.

Analytics:

You see a metaphor for the Garden of Eden, with the rest of my dream corresponding to my experience within Mormonism: The second paragraph being pro-Mormon, the third paragraph being anti-Mormon. One of those two seems legitimate enough, and I hadn't considered either possibility. BUT. . .

Some Schmo:

You see a metaphor for the current political climate in the United States. . . something radically different from what Analytics saw. I hadn't considered that possibility either, but I am indeed suffering from such "Trump overload" that I've absented myself from all things Trump-related. For example, how often have you seen me participate in Trump-related threads here in the Spirit Paradise forum? Nevertheless, your third paragraph hit home: Yes, I am indeed suffering from a crisis that's entirely internal that, now that I think of it, I'd like to fast-forward through all the pain and get to the resolution, assuming the resolution is destined to be in my favor.

subgenius:

You believe my dream could mean I am a pervert or a sexual deviant. This really intrigues me; what evidence in the dream leads you to conclude this?

Thanks to the four of you; I appreciate the feedback. If any of you have any more insights--or if anyone else would like to chime in--I'd love to hear (back) from you.

Re: Will someone interpret this dream for me? (WARNING: LON

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 10:13 pm
by _Some Schmo
I was just about to post this and saw your post, Shades. I was about to say:

Shades, what do you think it's trying to tell you?

What does the story remind you of personally? Whatever meaning it has for you is not going to come from anyone here. You already know. You just have to tease it out. Obviously, you care enough about it to have written down what you remember of it, so ask yourself honestly what you think it means. Whatever your brain tells you is likely the answer, or at least, dancing around it.

Sounds like you've already done it.

Re: Will someone interpret this dream for me? (WARNING: LON

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 4:59 am
by _Dr. Shades
Some Schmo wrote:Shades, what do you think it's trying to tell you? . . . What does the story remind you of personally?

To be honest, I haven't a clue, since this doesn't remind me of anything except what might pass for the movie Passengers II (which doesn't exist and hasn't even been thought of yet).

Whatever meaning it has for you is not going to come from anyone here. You already know. You just have to tease it out. Obviously, you care enough about it to have written down what you remember of it, so ask yourself honestly what you think it means. Whatever your brain tells you is likely the answer, or at least, dancing around it.

You know, I would normally assume that that mental crisis I told you about is the closest thing I can think it might be, BUT whenever I dream about that it's never hidden, cryptic, or subtle. I dream directly about it, with neither metaphor nor mistake. Plus, all the familiar emotions that get dredged up during those were entirely absent from this one.

I promise I'm not being coy about this.