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Franklin Graham -attempted rape is not a crime.

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 10:15 pm
by _aussieguy55
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/9 ... -finishing

Wow and he wonders why evangelicals are on the nose.

Re: Franklin Graham -attempted rape is not a crime.

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:35 am
by _Gunnar
Would Billy Graham have approved of his grandson's remarks, I wonder?

Re: Franklin Graham -attempted rape is not a crime.

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:44 am
by _honorentheos
Contextually, they are trying to win a war against socially sanctioned abortion. Graham was a Trump supporter early on during the election and it was clear then from his comments he was willing to overlook a lot of wrong to see this one supposed right come to fruition.

Re: Franklin Graham -attempted rape is not a crime.

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:35 am
by _moksha
Evangelical leaders seem besotted with right-wing politics. I doubt that holds true for the rank and file members.

Re: Franklin Graham -attempted rape is not a crime.

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:09 pm
by _honorentheos
moksha wrote:Evangelical leaders seem besotted with right-wing politics. I doubt that holds true for the rank and file members.

Hey moksha,

Are you saying you don't believe the average evangelical Christian tends to vote Republican due to social conservative issues, sees abortion as an evil that needs fought, and judicial upholding of marriage equality as an assault on religious freedom? I'd argue the opposite, and that those are their primarily political motivations. The potential to elect multiple Supreme Court justices who would be conservative with a real chance of overturning Roe v. Wade was a major consideration during the 2016 Presidential campaign. Major evangelical organizations got behind Trump and while one heard stories of protest as well as distaste for Trump himself, their support makes up a huge chunk of his base.

For example, recall this thread - viewtopic.php?f=5&t=47066&p=1078773

Re: Franklin Graham -attempted rape is not a crime.

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 5:43 pm
by _moksha
Honor, I realize that the rank and file of Evangelicals are steadfast against such things as abortion, equal rights for those they don't cotton to, and other such stuff. What I was thinking is that they might not give right-wing politicians free passes on all ethical and moral indiscretions in the same manner as their head honchos.

Some data that would lead me to this conclusion would be the case of Judge Roy Moore losing the Senate race in Alabama and Paige Patterson being given the boot by the Southern Baptist Conference (political analogs to Evangelicals). The leadership was willing to give them their blessings, but the membership had qualms. Anyway, this is merely a theory on my part. Makes me wonder if Ms.Jack would have a totally different take on this right-wing support issue.

Re: Franklin Graham -attempted rape is not a crime.

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:24 pm
by _honorentheos
I think you are right when it comes to senators and Congress members. But when it comes to abortion or same sex marriage they seem quite willing to hold their nose. Conservative presidents and justices aren't treated the same.

Re: Franklin Graham -attempted rape is not a crime.

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 12:28 am
by _subgenius
According to the cited article, Franklin never said what is stated in this thread's title.

Re: Franklin Graham -attempted rape is not a crime.

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 12:38 am
by _Gunnar
subgenius wrote:According to the cited article, Franklin never said what is stated in this thread's title.

He may not have used those exact words, but I don't see how any honest person could fail to infer that that's what he meant from his remarks.