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Cory Booker (D) - Presidential Hopeful, Sexual Assault

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:06 pm
by _Doctor CamNC4Me
Oh, boy. I hope we hear the same level of outrage from the Left directed at Mr. Booker if this is true:

When he was in high school, Cory Booker, the New Jersey Democrat and possible White House contender, groped his classmate as they kissed. He reached for her breast, and when she swatted his hand away, he made another attempt.

The incident resurfaced this week as Booker joined calls for an FBI to blah blah blah...


I want to see all the people on this board that have shown outrage at Kavanaugh, based only on an accusation, call for Mr. Booker who admitted to sexual assault to withdraw from seeking the White House nomination.

- Doc

Re: Cory Booker (D) - Presidential Hopeful, Sexual Assault

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:17 pm
by _Chap
[Cory Booker] ... groped his classmate as they kissed. He reached for her breast, and when she swatted his hand away, he made another attempt.


Two points:

1. That's not quite in the same league as the Ford story, in which it is alleged that an attempt was made to strip the girl naked after two guys had forced her into a room and locked the door, If I recall correctly.

2. If he is a serious contender in a Democratic primary, it will be perfectly legitimate for anyone who wants to to raise this point against him.

And your point was?

Re: Cory Booker (D) - Presidential Hopeful, Sexual Assault

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:47 pm
by _Doctor CamNC4Me
He admitted to sexual assault?

eta: And WOW re: your cavalier attitude toward to unwanted groping. WOW.

- Doc

Re: Cory Booker (D) - Presidential Hopeful, Sexual Assault

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:58 pm
by _Doctor CamNC4Me
Oh my god. I hadn't heard of this one until I started googling today:

https://www.stardem.com/news/state_news ... 4ce6a.html

At least five women have said they were interviewed by an independent investigator this spring about an alleged pattern of misconduct by Del. Curt Anderson, D-Baltimore, a veteran legislator and chair of the Baltimore City delegation.

Anderson, who attended the hearing in Annapolis, has denied wrongdoing.


Hoo boy. Where's the MSNBC outrage over this serial assaulter?

- Doc

Re: Cory Booker (D) - Presidential Hopeful, Sexual Assault

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 5:02 pm
by _Themis
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:He admitted to sexual assault?

eta: And WOW re: your cavalier attitude toward to unwanted groping. WOW.

- Doc


Did she stop kissing him?

Re: Cory Booker (D) - Presidential Hopeful, Sexual Assault

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 5:05 pm
by _Doctor CamNC4Me
Oh my. Did anyone know or follow the John Conyers scandal?

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/john-co ... d=51441969

1. Anonymous staffer 1

A female former Conyers staffer said that she felt she was fired because she refused his sexual advances and when she filed a complaint with the Office of Compliance in 2014, she reached a $27,000 settlement with Conyers, according to Buzzfeed. The complaint stated that the accuser said that she was repeatedly asked for sexual favors by Conyers, according to Buzzfeed which published the story on Nov. 20, and she said that he asked her to join him in a hotel room.

Conyers later released a statement saying “My office resolved the allegations – with an express denial of liability – in order to save all involved from the rigors of protracted litigation.”

2. Anonymous staffer 2

A former scheduler who alleged she suffered unwanted touching “repeated and daily,” according to Buzzfeed, which first obtained the court documents. The alleged incidents took place in 2015 and 2016. Buzzfeed did not include her name in their initial Nov. 21 report on the suit but reported that she voluntarily abandoned the case after the court denied her request to keep the case under seal.

ABC News has not confirmed the name of the accuser.

Conyer’s spokesperson told Politico “the former staffer voluntarily decided to drop the case.”

3. Melanie Sloan

The first woman to release her name while speaking out against Conyers was Sloan, a Washington lawyer and former minority counsel to the House Judiciary Committee from 1995 until 1998. Sloan currently serves as a senior adviser to American Oversight, a government watchdog group.

During her time working for the Judiciary committee Sloan says that Conyers was “increasingly abusive” to her and often berated her loudly in public and on one occasion she “walked into his office haven been called up to brief him on something and he was walking around in his underwear.”

Sloan also told ABC News that while she did not consider Conyers behavior to be sexual harassment she did consider it to be “sexual discrimination.”

“I don't think he was having male staffers babysit his kids and I don't think male staffers were berated in the same way that I was. Certainly, congressman Conyers was picking on me and this was well known throughout the committee staff. It was obvious,” Sloan said.

Conyers denied all accusations of wrongdoing, and his lawyer released a statement saying the congressman “has no plans to resign” and that he will cooperate with any investigation the House deems necessary.

Four days after Sloan first went public on Nov. 22 by speaking with The Washington Post, Conyers agreed to step down as the Ranking Member of the House Judiciary Committee during the investigation into the allegation.

"I cannot in good conscience allow these charges to undermine my colleagues in the Democratic Caucus, and my friends on both sides of the aisle in the Judiciary Committee and the House of Representatives," he said in the statement.

4. Deanna Maher

Conyer's former staffer Maher went public on Nov. 28, speaking to The Detroit News about three alleged incidents that she said happened in the late 1990s.

The first came in 1997 when she said he had arranged to have her stay in his hotel suite during an event with the Congressional Black Caucus. She said there was an incident where he allegedly touched her inappropriately in a car in 1998 and another time when he allegedly touched her legs under her dress in 1999, The Detroit News reported.

Maher confirmed those reports to ABC News.

"I’m trying to throw a grenade into this system, and I feel very fortunate that I came out relatively unscathed," she said in a statement.

According to The Detroit News, Conyers’ attorney Arnold Reed questioned why Maher would continue to work for Conyers for so many years after the alleged incidents. He also said Maher’s allegations are uncorroborated and that his client denies wrongdoing.

"At the end of the day, he’s confident that he will be exonerated because he maintains that he has not done anything wrong,” Reed said.

Conyers has not specifically responded to Maher’s allegations, but previously denied any wrongdoing after the other accusers came forward.


I don't recall a lot of outrage on this forum and how Mr. Conyers handled the allegations and his eventual "resignation". Weird how accusations of sexual assault only seem to muster a modicum of outrage by the partisans on this board if there's an (R) after a name.

Huh.

- Doc

Re: Cory Booker (D) - Presidential Hopeful, Sexual Assault

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 5:07 pm
by _Doctor CamNC4Me
Themis wrote:
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:He admitted to sexual assault?

eta: And WOW re: your cavalier attitude toward to unwanted groping. WOW.

- Doc


Did she stop kissing him?


I have no idea. I wasn't there. Who knows if he's downplaying the incident he admitted to? This is very troubling, wouldn't you say? Don't you think he ought to not seek nomination for President?

- Doc

Re: Cory Booker (D) - Presidential Hopeful, Sexual Assault

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 5:48 pm
by _Chap
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:He admitted to sexual assault?

eta: And WOW re: your cavalier attitude toward to unwanted groping. WOW.

- Doc


Unwanted groping ain't right, and people should not do it. The story can reasonably be raised in discussing Booker's candidacy in a Democratic primary. Go ahead and do if and when the time comes.

But the incident described, if true, is a LOT less serious than

Chap wrote: ... the Ford story, in which it is alleged that an attempt was made to strip the girl naked after two guys had forced her into a room and locked the door, If I recall correctly.


And let us recall that we are currently engaged in discussing what should happen at the hearings for the most powerful judicial appointment in the United States.

You have rightly reminded us that many other men do unwanted things to women. But somehow the Ford case is of larger current importance, don't you think?

Re: Cory Booker (D) - Presidential Hopeful, Sexual Assault

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 6:16 pm
by _Themis
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
I have no idea. I wasn't there. Who knows if he's downplaying the incident he admitted to? This is very troubling, wouldn't you say? Don't you think he ought to not seek nomination for President?

- Doc


In what way makes it these two events or claimed events even comparable? I'm not really sure if you are not just going after some people you think go to extremes by using this event which is border line inappropriate. The other claim is full on physical and sexual assault, while your example is two people kissing with the women trying to define a boundary as they get intimate.

Re: Cory Booker (D) - Presidential Hopeful, Sexual Assault

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 6:24 pm
by _ajax18
Kavanaugh was 17 years old. How does this incident from many decades ago define who he is now as an adult and potential Supreme court nominee? It's still just an allegation. How accurate is eye witness testimony especially after decades of time has passed? Why not just admit you want someone who is pro choice on abortion?